Hi Paul and si-listers, I've been following this thread with interest, but I've been a little disappointed with the unsatisfactory answers so far, so let me give it a try. First of all, let's realize here that a microstrip is not a "transmission line" at DC, its just a wire conductor over a plane conductor. A steady current through the wire will generate a B field, which will influence currents going through the plane conductor according to the observations of Oersted and Ampere as you have described. A current in the opposite direction in the plane will be forced away from the wire. The force opposing the spreading out of the charge carriers in the plane would be the induced static electric field, ie. the Hall effect. Those effects should be easily demonstrable as a steady state, but you are interested in dynamic conditions. So we consider accelerating charges through the wire, which will result in induced current in the plane (a direct consequence of Maxwell's equations). By Lenz's law, the induced current's B field will tend to oppose the change in B field of the wire. The induced current can best oppose the B field of the wire if it is close to the wire and in the opposing direction, ie. the path of least inductance. The resultant magnetic field is a sum of the mutual B fields. In the case of a microstrip, the wire is reasonably well coupled to the plane and the resultant B field is small. In the excellent symmetric case of coaxial conductors, the coupling is ideal and will result in a zero B field (idealising conductor properties, of course). The physical model is the superposition of these effects, where the first dominates under small charge accelerations and high currents, but the second dominates under large charge accelerations and low currents. So, there is no paradox. If one wants to talk about transmission lines, you can and should just ignore the first case, because it isn't significant: an ideal transmission line doesn't generate a B field. PC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu