[SI-LIST] Re: HDMI Frequency Failing RE Test by 7dB!!!!

  • From: vinod ah <ah.vinod@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: SI-LIST <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:58:49 +0530

Hi All,

One more observation, which I forgot to mention. When i remove only
the HDMI input cable (Input to the board), the radiation level drops
by 5 dB, while if i remove only  HDMI output cable the radiation level
drops by 2dB. Both the HDMI input and output cables are same set of
cables.

Regards
Vinod A H

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:47 PM, vinod ah <ah.vinod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Vijay,
>
> We have option to control the current and voltage swing. We tried
> both, without violating eye test, but still the i am seeing radiation
> at 742.5MHz. The radiation level keeps chnaging as i try with multiple
> cables. I found the best cable i had to be failing FCC limits by 7dB.
> I used some HDMI cable which are sold by big brands, but i was failing
> FCC by 12dB !!!.
>
> Hi Boris,
>
> We tested the Blu ray player and TV with same HDMI cable used for our
> board testing. the Blu ray player used is from Sony while the TV is
> from LG, we connected the blu ray player to TV using same HDMI cable
> and took the readings.
>
> Regards
> Vinod A H
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Traa, Boris <boris.traa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear Venod,
>>
>> You said that TV is oke and Blu Ray is tested. Seperately or as a 
>> combination with the same cables you also used to attach your board?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Boris Traa
>> System design engineer EMC
>>
>> It's the currents that make circuits work or fail.
>>
>> Philips Innovation Services/EMC center
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of vinod ah
>> Sent: Wednesday 23 May 2012 3:58 PM
>> To: SI-LIST
>> Subject: [SI-LIST] HDMI Frequency Failing RE Test by 7dB!!!!
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am designing a board with HDMI input and HDMI output. I am facing EMI 
>> issue at 742.5MHz (failing FCC limits by 7dB) when running 1080p30 on both 
>> Input and output HDMI i.e. BLu ray player connected to HDMI input connector 
>> of my board is giving out data at 1080p30 and HDMI out of my board is 
>> connected to TV which is also 1080p30 content. So i am unable to find out 
>> how is 742.5MHz coming out as radiation as it is 10th Harmonic of pixel 
>> clock  74.25MHz!!!!!!!. I am not facing any issues with other harmonics 
>> except for this. So i am totally confused on how to go about debugging this 
>> issue.
>>
>> Note: All the signals are routed on top layer without vias and all signals 
>> have solid ground plane reference. The blu ray player and TV used, is tested 
>> for radiation and no significant levels seen.
>>
>> Regards
>> Vinod A H
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