[SI-LIST] Re: HDMI Frequency Failing RE Test by 7dB!!!!
- From: vinod ah <ah.vinod@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Ken Wyatt <ken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 21:18:29 +0530
Hi Ken,
Sorry the wording were not proper. Here is the corrected one.
I just checked the layout and found that there are four shield pins
and we have used a zero ohms between shield pin and ground. Is this ok
to do so or should i have
solid ground connection to the shield pins. Also if i replace the zero
ohms with ferrite bead, will it help?
Regards
Vinod A H
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:11 PM, vinod ah <ah.vinod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> I just checked the layout and found that there are four pins for
> connecting the shield pins to ground and we have used a zero ohms
> between shield pin and ground. Is this ok to do so or should i have
> solid ground connection to the shield pins. Also if i replace the zero
> ohms with ferrite bead, will it help?
>
> Regards
> Vinod A H
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Ken Wyatt <ken@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Vinod,
>>
>> Is the HDMI connector shield -directly- connected to the (metallic)
>> enclosure? This should ideally be multiple connections. If the shield is
>> floating or poorly connected, you'll get common-mode currents flowing along
>> the outside of the HDMI cable shield.
>>
>> Have you measured the common-mode currents with a current probe?
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>> On May 23, 2012, at 9:17 AM, vinod ah wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vijay,
>>
>> We have option to control the current and voltage swing. We tried
>> both, without violating eye test, but still the i am seeing radiation
>> at 742.5MHz. The radiation level keeps chnaging as i try with multiple
>> cables. I found the best cable i had to be failing FCC limits by 7dB.
>> I used some HDMI cable which are sold by big brands, but i was failing
>> FCC by 12dB !!!.
>>
>> Hi Boris,
>>
>> We tested the Blu ray player and TV with same HDMI cable used for our
>> board testing. the Blu ray player used is from Sony while the TV is
>> from LG, we connected the blu ray player to TV using same HDMI cable
>> and took the readings.
>>
>> Regards
>> Vinod A H
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Traa, Boris <boris.traa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Venod,
>>
>>
>> You said that TV is oke and Blu Ray is tested. Seperately or as a
>> combination with the same cables you also used to attach your board?
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Boris Traa
>>
>> System design engineer EMC
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Wednesday 23 May 2012 3:58 PM
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>> Subject: [SI-LIST] HDMI Frequency Failing RE Test by 7dB!!!!
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>> I am designing a board with HDMI input and HDMI output. I am facing EMI
>> issue at 742.5MHz (failing FCC limits by 7dB) when running 1080p30 on both
>> Input and output HDMI i.e. BLu ray player connected to HDMI input connector
>> of my board is giving out data at 1080p30 and HDMI out of my board is
>> connected to TV which is also 1080p30 content. So i am unable to find out
>> how is 742.5MHz coming out as radiation as it is 10th Harmonic of pixel
>> clock 74.25MHz!!!!!!!. I am not facing any issues with other harmonics
>> except for this. So i am totally confused on how to go about debugging this
>> issue.
>>
>>
>> Note: All the signals are routed on top layer without vias and all signals
>> have solid ground plane reference. The blu ray player and TV used, is tested
>> for radiation and no significant levels seen.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vinod A H
>>
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