Chris, Gary's article lists good tools for SI. You could also add SiSoft tools to the mix, and for power integrity there are also a number of useful tools at various sophistication and price points. As it was recently pointed out on a similar thread, determining which tool best fits a particular need requires the evaluation of a series of criteria. You may find that even if we forget about cost, different projects and user backgrounds may steer you to different tools. As a starting point, it is important to realize that for today's challenging systems there is no such thing as a turn-key design tool. At best we get a good analysis tool, possibly with some level of optimization capability. This means the user has to come up with the design to be analyzed and the user has to know what to change (and how to change) in the design to make it to meet the requirements. So your first goal should be to ensure that the necessary knowledge is available in house to properly use the tools or to be able to effectively interact with consultants in case the task is outsourced. Regards, Istvan Novak SUN Microsystems colin_warwick@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Gary Breed, Editorial Director of High Frequency Electronics magazine, has a > nice, succinct tutorial entitled "High Speed Digital Design Benefits from > Recent EDA Tool Developments." > > http://bit.ly/gary-breed > > The article begins on page 54 of the PDF, which corresponds to the print > pagination of page 52. > > Hth > -- Colin > http://signal-integrity-tips.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Chris Maryan > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 5:45 PM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Getting Started > > I recently ran across a project where the power distribution on a > prototype board was botched, and some SI issues were suspected as well. > Which got me thinking, how can we prevent this sort of thing in the > future and get it right the first time? At the moment, our group doesn't > use any SI or power analysis tools, we've done very well on the basis of > experience and conservative design. > > > So for all of you out there: what sort of tools should I be looking at > if I am interested in validating board level power quality and SI? The > boards are large FPGA based, typically 8-16 layers, with DDR2 layout > being the main area interest for SI, along with a handful of > multi-gigabit serial signals. Assume for a moment that things like EMI > emission and susceptibility and analog circuit noise are (at least for > the time being) outside of my interest. > > > > How do I get started? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris Maryan > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu