[SI-LIST] Re: FW: Re: Question related to HFSS: Zpi, Zpv, Zvi difference

  • From: "Jon Powell" <jonpowell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <Raymond.Anderson@xxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:24:54 -0800

It should also be noted that ALL SI simulator companies monitor this list
in one way or another, and I am sure that either positive or negative
reactions
to their tools or their support are noted and that may lead to actions that
are
positive to the entire community.

jon


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ray Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:28 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: FW: Re: Question related to HFSS: Zpi, Zpv, Zvi
difference




fasig.jonathan@xxxxxxxx wrote:

>Hmmm.  I thought the si-list was an open forum for exchange of technical
>information, not just an extension of somebody's license manager.  I was
>really disappointed to see this thread get shut down before being
addressed,
>especially since I already paid my HFSS maintenance fee and called the Apps
                                .
                                . (stuff deleted..)
                                .
                                .

 Jonathan-


 I don't believe the thread was shut down, it's just that no one who
 knows the answer has responded yet.

 As far as the issue of whether it is alright to discuss technical issues
 related to specific tools on the list is concerned, in my opinion I
 don't see a problem with it.

 Prior to his posting his original message questioning the propriety
 of end running the vendor support engineers by appealing to the list
 readership, Charles asked me if it was an appropriate topic for the list.

 The following couple of paragraphs is/was my take on the topic:


"You pose an interesting viewpoint, one that I haven't heard
expressed before.

I tend to disagree with your assertion that permitting people
to post tool use questions is "unfair" to those who pay for
support from the tool vendors.

First, the level of support provided by tool vendors varies
from truly first rate to truly dismal. In addition, I've noted
that on the list a question can sometimes be answered within
minutes. I've rarely seen that kind of response from vendor tool
support people. I'm sure it happens (and it should), but I've
not seen it.

Also, consider that just about everyone (I would hope) is using a
licensed copy of the various SI applications as opposed to pirated
versions (modern licensing schemes help to enforce that). As such,
the users of the tools could conceivably contact the vendor if they
wished to.

Another consideration is that with a large userbase available online
to ask questions of, the enquirer can receive a number of alternative
ways of doing something as opposed to the single opinion that might
be received if you just asked the vendor's support guy. Conversely,
one must realize that some of the answers one receives online may be
worth what you payed for them  (Caveat Emptor...) With so many users
of tools on the list, if a particularly off-the-wall answer is given
you can be pretty sure those really-in-the-know will chime in to
set things straight.

Anyway, that's my personal take on the topic, certainly not authorative!"

-Ray Anderson

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