Hi Junwei, If what I can get is an S parameter file of 2 cascaded fixtures, let's call it Sf2, rather than Sf (the S parameter file of only one fixture), what can I do to de-embed it from my test results? Thanks. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ext J_Dong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 00:26 To: 'Ming Li'; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: De-embed fixture Ming, Assume your measured S parameters are Sa (for all) and Sf (fixture itself), you can convert them to their individual ABCD matrices, say, Aa and Af. If your DUT has abcd of Ax, then from: Aa = A1*Ax*A1 you can solve Ax = A1^-1*Aa*A1^-1. After that, you can do an ABCD-to-S parameter convert. If I remember correctly, I think those functions are called s2abcd.m and abcd2s.m in matlab. You might need a little bit programming because the Snp file has frequencies in it, and I am not sure if matlab will take care of it automatically. Good luck. Junwei Dong -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ming Li Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:02 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] De-embed fixture Hi, experts, I get two identical fixtures on both sides of my DUT. And I got the s4p data of the fixture itself and s4p data of the DUT cascading with the two fixtures. Could you please kindly let me know how I can de-embed the fixture and get the s4p data for the DUT? I know the math behind it but the data itself is too big to calculate. Thanks in advance. Regards, Ming Li ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu