> I am confused here. I though that even though the curves are VCC > relative on > IBIS > it does matter the voltage at which the VI curves where extracted. Yes it does. I wrote that the curves and supply voltage are independent, "ideally." In reality, the drive strength of real devices, as measured in a Vcc-relative way, does depend on the supply voltage. But IBIS is not detailed enough to show that dependency. So when you use a model, you could use the minimum curve with something other than the minimum supply voltage. The results ought to be conservative, because the real device would be slightly stronger/faster, at that supply voltage, than that dictated by the minimum I-V curve that the simulator uses. Some simulators (such as Hspice) let you choose the supply voltage separately from the I-V curve. Others may make them linked so that you can't do that. Regards, Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu