Nic, The second stackup would need the routing to be vertical and horizontal = to control the tandem crosstalk. You did not mention the board thickness = or trace impedance for the design. In order to achieve power/ground = interplane capacitance, the spacing between the two planes would need to = be small. Outer layer routing will increase the EMI effects but the crosstalk can = be minimized by controlling the spacing to the reference plane. Remember = that decoupling capacitors will be needed when layer jumping from non = adjacent layers. The first stackup is very common and can be found in = Howard Johnson's "Black magic" book. =20 Doug Hopperstad. -----Original Message----- From: Nic Torchia [mailto:domenic.torchia@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:47 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] 4 Layer Stackups Greetings All, =20 Can anyone shed some light on what would be considered a "good" 4 layer stackup? Does anyone have suggestions for reference material I could read? =20 These are the 2 versions we are currently considering. Does anyone know of any pros/cons for these stackups? =20 Sig1/PWR GND PWR Sig2/GND =20 or =20 GND Sig1/PWR Sig2/PWR GND =20 =20 =20 Finally, for a design under 15MHz what is more important: inter-plane capacitance (pwr/gnd distance minimized) or signal/plane distance to be minimized? =20 =20 Thanks, Nic Torchia =20 =20 =20 =20 Domenic (Nic) Torchia Product Engineering Manager NORSCAN Phone (204) 233-9138 ext.40 Fax (204) 233-9188=20 www.norscan.com =20 Our Mission: "To develop and provide open interface solutions that manage and secure the physical layer of communication networks" =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu