I think the big point is that judges need proper education on how a correctly coated dog should be assessed. As we know, Germany has defined the stock coat. It should be part of the education committee of the PC to do this and make judges understand what is correct or not and to not fault judge on a minor fault. If coat length is removed, definitive wording needs to be included to describe a proper coat. Molly -----Original Message----- From: carolyn mckenna <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, May 24, 2014 12:05 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] standard change f the standard were to be changed regarding coat length would a long coat imply be no fault at all ? �It is actually not the length of the hair that is aulty ut the texture and lack of undercoat that so often accompanies the longer coat. lso, the long coat is most likely self-limiting now that we have tests to etermine whether a dog carries the coat factor. �Granted, some of our best roducing bitches have been coats, but few breeders will breed to a dog that is nown to arry the coat factor. Carolyn =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================