I really don't think anyone is saying not to have one their and what do you mean ALWAYs we have not had but 2 in 10 years, but really True east hasn't either. And frankly to many on the east don't come west, the west tends to be willing to go east or at least further that the east seems to be willing (generally not of course everyone). Not even to Colorado which is NOT WEST it is Central. I think that people simply need to understand that you may NOT be able to go every year. If you can GREAT! If you can not so sad but those are the facts. I don't like having it at Purina for the next three years so it could very well be difficult for me and many other to make many of the next 4 years. We will probably make 1 or 2 but probably not all. This is the only reason I am not real happy because the membership wanted it rotated. I guess sometimes you don't get what you want. Hopefully the club get pulled out of it financial trouble and we then can get back to what the membership wants. Patience is needed right now. Debbie In a message dated 3/21/2013 3:00:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, CheradonGSD@xxxxxxx writes: ummmmm--I dont understand the problem with having it on the east coast--there are just as many GSD here as out west--and we seem to ALWAYS have it out there-so what about all the people from here who always have to go way out there??? Now is OUR chance to not have to drive or fly so far. and......................this year--I can actually go for my FIRST National. ;-) Cheri Hunt CHERADON SHEPHERDS Home of some of the most gorgeous German Shepherds in the World ! _Cheradon Shepherds Home Page_ (http://www.cheradonshepherds.com/) In a message dated 3/21/2013 3:42:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: There are no perfect show sites. The only thing that really makes a site really BAD...is to make it too unavailable for people to get there with their dogs! It is A DOG SHOW!! When people can't get there with their dogs safely and easily...the show is not a great National. This year...if is extremely difficult for anyone in the West to get there with a dog without a 3 - 5 day drive. Three day drives are bearable....after that it becomes a hardship for most. Most of us are well aware of costs rising...but sometimes things reach a point to where you just have to give it up. <G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris S. Kimerer Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 11:33 AM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: board o gram Increasing the entry fee does not bother or surprise me. It's been a long time since the National has had an entry fee increase. Our Regional Specialty Club had to increase our entry fees several years ago just to break even! There are MANY things people can do now, but all activities have become expensive. One of my nephews plays competetive basketball, and what his parents put out money wise for him to play and travel is very expensive. Another one is doing Golden Glove Boxing events, talk about expense and travel etc. So it's no surprise that the dog showing is following the same trend. I have heard that the facility is not the best, that is dissapointing for sure, I'm sure the ring will be big enough, but not having sufficient Vendor space is not a good thing. But like usual, we will make the best of a not so great situation. Open stalls on the East Coast in October is not good, mostly dissapointed about that news, and yet, after hearing all the rumors about how bad Salt Lake was going to be, it was not terrible. We did luck out with having no rain, that would have been a mess with the red dirt, but as usual, the rumor mill had proclaimed it to be an absolute dump, and I personally did not think it was a bad show site. So, once again, we will just wait and see until we get there. :) I have never been to the East Coast and look forward to seeing some of it. Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer http://www.tanbarkgsd.com/ Ch. CaralonQED Tanbark Treasure Island v Joelle Aramist, OFA H/E Gr.Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist Charbo-Tanbark's Trinket v Hillside DeRousse DareDevil Diva v Tanbark Aramists BlingBling v Joelle, ROM RIP Gr.Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. 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