Hey, Mo, Thanks so much answering my post. One thing she did receive was praise for her conditioning, effortless movement and good temperament and she was 18 months when we started. Trust me, with working dogs, conditioning is one of the most important things in considering a dog to breed on with, if they can't handle a vigorous lifestyle they are useless as 8 hour a day police dogs whose whole life is "adrenaline bursts". She did have a very plain head, feminine but plain and a slightly wide earset, but boy what a body. I remember in my handling classes with her, teaching her to set-up, the judge/handler teaching the class walked over, said do this and that, and wow! what a beauty, even he was impressed, he loved her...she is my only true regret that I didn't have the money for a pro, I will always feel that my being a nobody cost her what she deserved. She is the main reason I stopped showing seriously in the AKC, my other dogs did well in their classes but I knew it would take a looooong time with them, if ever, LOL she on the other hand, she was a champion...that's why I appreciate the SV system, I can get a show rating of my dog's conformation and if my dog is a "V" dog, it gets the "V" rating, maybe not "V1", but at least a rating of what it's conformation deserves, kind of like obediance or agility, I may not be High In Trial, but at least I can earn a qualifying score. I appreciate all of you who have sacrificed your money and time to get your championships, I really do, 'cause it really cost you. Me? I wanted other things more, and that's ok, too. Rachel & the Ark An American Working Dog Kennel Doing Our Part To Take A Bite Out Of Crime Since 1986! http://aaronswoodsarabians.homestead.com http://www.k9-workshop.com http://segensreich.homestead.com Proud Blue Star Mom of PFC Aaron Anderson, USMC "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert Einstein ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================