Stormy, Yes, the agility and rally trials do have the same option of bringing in an additional judge for overflow. However, it isn't quite as easy as it is in conformation. In agility, not only do you have to find an additional judge, but you also have to find an additional set of that very expensive equipment. And you must have room for an additional ring. Then there are the additional stewards needed for the ring. It takes at least four people per ring. With tracking the number of judges is not the problem. The space for additional tracks is the biggest problem. And it's getting worse every year. Our local obedience club used to be able to give a 10 track TDX test (with two sets of judges) every year. Now we are lucky to have space for 5 tracks. We also used to give 24 track TD tests and now only have space for 12 tracks. Sue Mazzeo From: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: mixed breeds competing in AKC Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:46:58 -0800 Julie raises some important points and there are more questions than answers. When conformation shows have more than the expected entries, do they have the option of getting a second judge? I know in the all breed rings, there is some shuffling around when entries exceed the limits. Do Performance trials have that same option? If Agility trials are that popular (wow!), is there a mechanism for opening another ring, bringing in another judge? Obedience? Rally has become very popular, rings are easy to set up, add a judge?Do AKC agility trials have that kind of entry? Why aren't more specialty clubs offering them... oh, right, workers in the rings and out of them :-( Tracking is another story. Tracking has been so difficult to enter for what seems like ages. Space needed, time per dog, helpers, etc. And are there less tracking judges than other venues? Is that the same, by the way for herding Class C? Time and space? It seems that even without the added entries of mixed breeds there is a problem. What are the solutions to the first problem, then that might make the second problem not so great? I don't have answers, just questions :-) I would bet with the correct outcry of unsterilized mixed breeds registration privileges will get that one changed quickly. Stormy CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================