A little word of caution on the Furminator, it works great, BUT, the coat HAS to be clean and works best if a conditioner is also used. It prevents from hurting the outer coat, which one can literally put a hole into if the dog is not freshly bathed and conditioned. If a bath can not be given but the undercoat is coming loose a high powered dryer will get rid of a lot of that hair without having to do all the raking/combing. Of course the best way is to give a really good bath, use the zoomgroom to pull out as much hair during the bath as possible and then blow dry the dog. I have a very very plush male that I do this with and just did last sunday and after his bath and blow had very little raking left. Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu OFA H/E Ch. Cresthers Blast V Kenlyn OFA --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Penny & Bill <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Penny & Bill <Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: grooming To: "The List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 9:47 PM I have two bitches with *extremely* plush coats. Not real long guard hairs, but rather super thick undercoats. (When parting the hair, it's tough to see skin.) When they blow coat, I can barely get a rake through the coat. It is actually impossible to get a rake through some areas and I end up "plucking" the undercoat as it surfaces. This takes forever! If anyone knows a "trick" for grooming such plush-coated dogs, I'd love to hear about it. (Bathing and blow drying are out for right now.) Thanks in advance. Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member *************************************************************************************** Paulette, Both Forest and Tabu are VERY plush-coated. I like using a metal comb with them. You can get a lot more hair out that way than by using any kind of a brush. Other people say that the "furminator" (is that the name?) pulls out the whole undercoat by just brushing the dogs once. Penny ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================