[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: fronts "videos of GSD movement reason... conformation"

  • From: Beth Andrews <gsdbeth@xxxxxxx>
  • To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:51:52 -0700 (PDT)

I normally just lurk but I looked at the videos and had to speak up. All the 
german show dogs in the videos had roach backs which is very incorrect no 
matter 
whose standard you go by. Beth Andrews and her working line GSD's



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From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
To: carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, June 23, 2012 11:48:49 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: fronts "videos of GSD movement reason... 
conformation"

Carolyn, great post... horse conformation can vary due to breed.  I always 
preferred the look of some of the old lines of GSD.  

 
I could not find any American Show GSD videos that did not include GSD's 
with handles or owners to post so these videos are German GSD's. 

 
Do you are anyone else know of any GSD videos like these of our AKC or 
Speciality Show GSD's?
 
GSD Movement in slow motion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_z3fgk9bQw

 
The German Shepherd Dog the German Way 1- Gait and Locomotion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?vvZBT2OVTPQ

 
The German Shepherd Dog the German Way 2- Structure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfgtBHwE7es

 
The German Shepherd Dog the German Way 3- Structure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v·jxS1hYOiI

 
The German Shepherd Dog the German Way 3- Structure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7Q5Qex0IQ

 
Dingo vom Haus Gero, The Best Mover - Poetry in Motion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPJPE9oNN7A

Theresa

 
 On Sat, 6/23/12, carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Our standard is very good - except in the area of the front.  About the 
shoulder 
it states only
that "the shoulder blades are long and obliquely angled, laid on flat and NOT 
PLACED FORWARD.
(emphases mine)  The upper arm joins the shoulder blade at about a right angle. 
"  Most of us do
adhere to the belief that the blade should be laid back to about 45% to the 
ground.  Now, if one knows
 anything at all about physics and applies this to the  "upper arm joins the 
shoulder blade at about a
right angle ",  this would put the upper arm at 45% to the ground also, 
certainly not perpendicular
as so many of our winners are.  It would also put the elbow directly beneath 
the 
top of the blade,
not below the center of the chest.  A dog, or a horse for that matter, must 
 "stand over himself".
The head should be well before the shoulder to balance an animal where 65% of 
his weight is
in the front.  Thus the forelegs must be under this weight, not pushed forward 
under the neck.
There have been numerous complaints recently about the judges awarding dogs on 
their extreme
fronts.  Yes, they are extreme, but not correctly so.  The reach is false; 
reach 
is measured by
where the foot touches the ground to take up the thrust of the rear, not by how 
far ahead of
the dog that foot can go BEFORE touching the ground.  The rear foot must reach 
far under the dog 
to begin the thrust that provides the forward motion.  Notice that forward 
reach 
in the rear is lacking
when the front is pushed forward . I  hope our illustrated standard will 
provide explanation that 
the written standard lacks.
Carolyn

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