lets see theres helen gleasons gator and julie degens bitch. i am sure both of them know the others.helen invited me to attend schutzhund training on her property a few years back. i watched but its not really my thing. i think it goes along with that current in your face agression that is so popular with some younger people. i think it goes along with bad manners tatoos nose rings and a lack of respect popularized by internet and other media. very adolescent. its one way of making money during a depressed economy but after seeing a HUnt Truck parked right near my post office i think they are not far removed from the same thing. Cock fighting Bull fighting and dog fighting are illegal in this country so schutzhund lets out the aggression legally. in new york state it is illegal for anyone not licensed by the state to train dogs in bite work and i am glad that it is. -- norma hansburg www.normahansburg.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================