Norma Schutzhund work, is FAR MORE than just bite work, FAR MORE. They have to have a BH, which is like our CGC , but with also traffic, and bike sureness added in, plus off leash obedience, slow, and at speed. They have to have an AD, which is a 12 plus mile endurance test done in only a couple of hours. There is also tracking, dumbells, A frames, etc.... Bite work is only one of many dimensions of SchH. It has been around since the time of Capt Max. It is not "new " as you say . It has nothing to do with blatant aggression!!! It is about courage and obedience. Dogs that fight other dogs are not considered "game" . They are just bad actors, encouraged by stupid cruel humans. Same with cockfighting. SchH is a highly developed multi phase task that takes HUGE dedication of time, energy, and sometimes money. It has NOTHING to do with legally letting out so called aggression. Some of the finest, most tractable , docile dogs in the world are VA rated , SchH 3 dogs..that you can take anywhere . In fact over aggression esp against other dogs is a DQ.... seriously Norma..go and watch ...talk to the owners, meet the dogs. Don't make blanket statements that have no basis in reality. Unless your post is tongue in cheek , which I can only hope it is.... Kathy *http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com* *Updated: June 2013* *CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan **Kappo von Eisenwerk* *RBIF Monarch's Tarragon v Kaleef* * * *"Victory...*Vires et honestas" On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:53 AM, <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > lets see theres helen gleasons gator and julie degens bitch. i am sure > both of them know the others.helen invited me to attend schutzhund training > on her property a few years back. i watched but its not really my thing. i > think it goes along with that current in your face agression that is so > popular with some younger people. i think it goes along with bad manners > tatoos nose rings and a lack of respect popularized by internet and other > media. very adolescent. its one way of making money during a depressed > economy but after seeing a HUnt Truck parked right near my post office i > think they are not far removed from the same thing. Cock fighting Bull > fighting and dog fighting are illegal in this country so schutzhund lets > out the aggression legally. in new york state it is illegal for anyone not > licensed by the state to train dogs in bite work and i am glad that it is. > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================