You see, there is the problem. No one outside the ring can see what a judge sees inside the ring. A dog can look like a spook from outside and be perfectly sound. Also, a dog can stand like a statue inside the ring, but have eyes darting back and forth. Now, if a dog tries to bite the judge, or growls, that is clear. But trying to judge a dog from outside the ring, will not work. Also, anyone who has judged for a few years can pick a sound dog from ten feet away. But, it still is a dog show, and even if you are not going to consider a dog, you do the entire examination, watch the dog down and back and around. You owe that to the exhibitors. But, you also owe it to the dogs to do the right thing, no matter what those outside the ring think. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 9/3/13 11:36:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx writes: I disrespect a judge who puts a dog up for an award that everyone outside the ring can completely see a dog spook. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================