I started in obedience too and I agree with you Kathy. I've had 2 handlers fall on my dogs--the shepherd immediately recovered, but the Lab, well let's just say it took awhile for her to be seaworthy again. I also agree with your kennel comment. Sound dogs who live in our home experience everything: the comings and the goings. But because I also believe temperament is hereditary (about 80%) and environmental (about 20%) , I have seen spooks not capable of living in the house. And THAT is a shame. Penny in NC The Farm Dog Forever I'll also add, and maybe it's because I started in OB where we had a stand for exam and a moving stand...that it's easier to train and "proof" a dog than it is to be able to count on what will happen in a ring, ob OR breed. I can't worry about how a judge approaches or thumps or wants to check tonsils or stalks. I've had judges (2) fall on dogs. I take puppies outside of an indoor where people are smoking to get them used to smoke. (Dog's, if they have never been exposed, HATE cigarette smoke). Ditto strong perfume. I get up way too early in the AM on show days to leave such things to chance. I go back to having the dogs live underfoot and not warehoused in kennel runs. Sound dogs that live underfoot are bomb proof. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================