If I was old and sick I would want as little drama in my life as possible, so yes. I don't get the whole "my program" thing anyway. I've made outstanding friends with people who have bred the dogs in my dogs' pedigrees. When I have a potential new star it's as much if not more to their credit than mine, but by the same token, no one is happier for me than they are. It's a blending of a whole lot of programs (or else you just breed into a corner I guess). When things go wrong, as they will from time to time, the friendships have endured and I have benefited from strong shoulders when my own weren't so strong. And if I sell a dog that someone later breeds I am their biggest cheerleader if/when they are happy about whet it brings to THEIR program. But make no mistake, although I may see a front I (think I) recognize as "mine", or a beautiful croup reminiscent of so and so...THEY put the dogs together so it is now THEIR program and I am happy to be included and play some small part. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 2/14/2014 11:57:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, daphne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: OK - let's add this to the hypothetical scenario - what if you were mentoring this person to take over your breeding because you were old and sick and wanted the line to continue and they decided they wanted to just push you aside, keep your dogs and steal your program? Would you still just do nothing and let them take your breeding program? daphne Quoting Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx: > I'm not going to beat you up but that's not an agreement I ever would have > made. > > We have people locally that will place a bitch for nothing and then want > her for 1-2 litters back. I even have a blip on my web site under the > "questions to ask section" about why NOT to fall for something like > that from a > new owner's perspective. New name for this...guardian home. > > If the dogs were much loved and well cared for, I'd forget about it, and > no, contracts aren't worth a darn once the puppy leaves. > > If I really wanted to keep a particular dog for a breeding program, it > simply wouldn't leave. > > > Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC > Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions > > visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ > > > In a message dated 2/14/2014 10:34:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > daphne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > How about an interesting question posed to breeders. > > You place two of your breeding dogs with a client, that client did not > pay any money for the dogs because they were to be used in your > breeding program, the client signed contracts on both the dogs, and > the agreement was that once the contracts were fulfilled the dogs > would be altered (spayed/neutered) an ownership would be transferred > to the client. > > What would you do if the client refused to honor the contracts? > 1) File a breach of contract lawsuit against the client? > 2) Turn the other cheek and let the client breach the agreement and > keep your dogs? > 3) Petition to get your dogs back? > 4) Do nothing? > > Are contracts valid? 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