In response. The stud dog owner had to know because she was With the owner the day they, together, picked up the puppy and it was made clear the puppy was placed on a Limited Registration.. Deception had to have occured at some point thereafter if the individual registration certificate was altered. As far as asking for opinions "after closing the barn door after the horses got out" I was merely curious as to how the German Shepherd Dog community would have responded if they were in the same situation. No more, no less. Personally I feel I did the right thing in filing the complaint, save I would not have done it, to protect the integrity of the industry as well as the viability of the Limited Registration option. And for the record, the female was not spayed prior to placement due to her age. Faithfully Yours, Rin Tin Tin Miss Daphne Hereford www.RinTinTin.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: <MissHereford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What would you do? > > In a message dated 12/31/2005 10:41:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > MissHereford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > I find out only a short time ago, not only was she bred several times, > But, > her progeny was registered. One of the breedings was to a male owned by > the > GSD breeder friend. I contacted the GSD breeder friend by email and asked > how this could be since the puppy was on Limited Registration. She replied > that her friend, the owner of the female, was now deceased as was the > female > in question. She also said, "Don't know anything about it," which I had a > problem with since she Had to know the female was placed (given - not > sold) > on Limited Registration. She suggested I contact AKC - which I did. I > filed > a complaint to find out how, and by whom, the Limited Registration had > been > changed. > > Now I have received emails from owners of second and third generation > puppies who are understandibly concerned after receiving letters from AKC > not to breed, show, transfer, etc. their dogs. > > My question to the GSD community is this, "Would you file a complaint on > a > Limited Registration that was obviously changed - altered - forged - > incorrectly recorded by someone?" > > I realize correcting this wrong will affect several uninvolved > individuals > who down the road purchased puppies, but in my mind honesty and integrity > are at the forefront here and a wrong that was perpetrated by either > intent > or error, should be corrected. > > I look forward to your comments. > > > > Just to recap, if I understood correctly, the owner of the bitch is dead, > and the bitch herself is dead. I'm not sure how the owner of the stud dog > "had > to know" because, for stud dog records, all the owner would need is the > registration #, which certainly wouldn't indicate HOW the bitch was > registered..... > > You've already filed a complaint w/ the AKC, so, asking for input now is > like closing the barn door after the horse got out. Sadly the damage is > done for > the unsuspecting/innocent third parties. If I were in this situation, I > wouldn't have done anything. The party who did the "bad", presumably the > dead > bitch owner, obviously, would have been out of my reach. > > Just goes to show 'ya, limited registration doesn't always work. The > only > way to know for SURE, a bitch can't be bred is to spay her. > > Kathy > three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! > > visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ > (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. 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