[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: WOW
- From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
- To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:27:29 -0500 (EST)
Folks it is CONFORMATION not CONFIRMATION.
In a message dated 2/10/2012 6:39:13 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes:
Cathy, I don't think you really believe that OB was (quoting you below)
"developed for two very different reasons to allow people who had a dog
that
was not competitive for the confirmation ring have another outlet to
compete
with their dogs."
So it's a place for people with dogs that are "not exactly" to hang out
and
play?
Gosh, not for me.
When I read the intro to the OB rule book "The purpose of Obedience Trials
is to demonstrate the usefulness of the purebred dog as a companion to
man...... " I get goose bumps.
Yes, there may have been a time when breeders sold their "not exactly"
dogs
to performance people. I was never an advocate of that practice. And yes,
a lot of us started in performance with a dog that was "less than" and
then wandered over to the breed ring. (At that point many of us decided
we
wanted it all.)
But I disagree that OB (or other performance venues) was developed and
promoted as an "outlet" for dogs that were "less than".
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 2/9/2012 7:18:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Well, I wanted to answer Carolyn's remarks about what I said with the
obedience and confirmation venues. I was not saying this to put a "Chasm"
between the obedience and breed people. I was saying this as these venues
were
recognized and developed for two very different reasons to allow people
who
had a dog that was not competitive for the confirmation ring have another
outlet to compete with their dogs.
If it was not for my start in obedience with my ILP GSD, I would have
never gotten as involved in the breed or the sport itself.
This is the same reason that Rally and Agility have been developed, not
everyone wants to do obedience. Many of the dogs from all different
breeds
competing in performance would never make it in the breed ring, but that
is
not why their handlers got them and this is the majority, the number of
CH
competing from any breed in performance are in the minority.
I have great respect for Lori and Julie and what they have accomplished
with their CH. dogs and for that matter what your dogs have accomplished.
Jane Jeter was a friend and we use to compete in obedience together and I
know what it was like to be treated as a second class citizen at shows,
we did
not even have any tents in the early 80's to go under. We paid our entry
fees they same as the breed folks, but we were treated differently.
Perhaps as has been suggested, if the "Total Dog" is all that important,
then the Selects should have to have some sort of performance title.
I just believe that people who love the GSD and work hard to put the time
and the money into performance should be allowed to compete for the top
award in that venue.
Also, call me stupid, but isn't obedience the only performance title we
give a GV in? If performance and the "Total Dog": is so very important
then
each venue should have such an award and Agility is the fastest growing
venue of the AC.
I just feel if people support the breed and the Club they should be
entitled to won the honors. By the way, does any one remember last years
AKC's
Search and Rescue GSD at Eukanuba? He had flopped ears, but his work won
him
honors and that everyone should be proud of as he represented what this
breed was breed to do.
Cathy
Kelstar
fmurch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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