Send in email from Robin Stansell to myself in late 2007 when I inquired about this issue being discussed. "Futurities are the clubâ??sresponsibility and the enforcement should therefore be a club matter. The results are not recorded by AKC and are a matter of the clubâ??s jurisdiction. " Robin Stansell Vice President - Event Operations AKC -----Original Message----- From: caggra@xxxxxxx To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx; cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 10:24 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars To All: Nancy Harper writes: "Linda is correrct, Jeff Pyle did not handle a dog? prior to judging.? He was hired" prior to the judging as verified by the closing date of the TN hows.? Talk with AKC they have ruled this constitues a "conflict of nterest".?? Should AKC change their ruling, I am quite sure the PC Board ould do the same." was not "hired".?? I was asked by Linda (not Joan) to show a few dogs at the ast Tennesee specialty which was after Joan's Futurity.?? Linda asked me to how an Open dog for someone in Florida, which I was paid for.?? She also asked f I could help the struggling East Tennessee club by taking in a couple of xtra dogs that weren't really competitive, but as we all know sometimes we fill p an entry to make majors for everyone.? I did not invoice any of the owners of he bitch which Joan's name was part of, nor ever wa s paid for showing that itch or a couple of others owned by other people.?? Therefore, please tell me ow that equate to a?BUSINESS relationship when no communication between me and oan occured and no invoice/money was exchanged??? To clarify?a few key points?- I have never, not once?been booked to show a dog for?Joan Fox.? She has never alled and booked me to show a dog.? Prior to this East Tennessee show in uestion I never showed a dog?owned, co-owned, or bred by Joan Fox.?? Since that how, I have never showed a dog owned, co-owned or bred by Joan?Fox.? ?She has ever been a client of mine.? I have spoken with Joan on the phone approximately times in my entire life - all 5 occuring AFTER this whole incident happened.? have never been to Joan Fox's home and she has never been to mine.?? I have ever shared a meal with Joan Fox - we have never grabbed lunch or dinner.?? All of the above are the normal activities that I believe occur when there is a usiness relationship between people.?? Lastly, when I contacted AKC I was told that they do not rule on Futurity ncidents.? Their words - "We do not record wins for matches & futurities, so ow can we possibly take away a win for something that is not recorded"??? I was urther told that AKC would simply?stand by whatever decision the?parent lub?determined, and if necessary, help the GSDCA enforce their (their meaning SDCA) final ruling.?? I have the above statements from AKC in writing by email f anyone would like to see them. Sincerely, Jeff Pyle ----Original Message----- rom: Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> o: lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx; cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Sun, Sep 6, 2009 7:05 pm ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars inda is correrct, Jeff Pyle did not handle a dog prior to judging. He was hired" prior to the judging as verified by the closing date of the TN hows. Talk with AKC they have ruled this constitues a "conflict of nterest". Should AKC change their ruling, I am quite sure the PC Board ould do the same. ---- Original Message ----- rom: <lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx> o: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:48 PM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars am putting true money on the table. I will donate $10,000 (ten thousand ollars) to rescue if Carmen Battaglia or Nancy Harper can tell us one time eff Pyle EVER handled, watered, or fed, (covering all bases here lol) a dog or Joan Fox prior to her judging the SE Fut Mat in April of 2006. I am erious on the challenge and confident my bank account will not be depleted. ent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ----Original Message----- rom: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:56:56 o: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: handling for a judge he 4-month rule may have only recently been added to the GSDCA judging uidlines, but as of 01/08/2004, this rule was in effect wit h the AKC. The SDCA Futurities/Maturities are AKC *sanctioned* matches. Therefore, the udge of an AKC sanctioned match is required to follow *AKC* rules and uidlines in effect at the time the match took place. Here's the AKC link where you will find the 4-month rule stated clearly and oncisely: ttp://www.akc.org/about/conflict/exhibitB.cfm Look under section III. Ineligible Dogs and you will see the following: "2. If a judge uses an agent, the agent is not to exhibit dogs under the udge for at least four months after working for you. This policy applies or breed competition, but it is recommended to avoid at all levels Policy - Guidelines)." f my post is incorrect, please let met know. aulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member ellborn-Allemande German Shepherds ui Me Amat, Am t et Canem Meam ---- Original Message ----- rom: "Peg Kurz" <gatlinp@xxxxxxx> o: <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:01 PM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: handling for a judge our right Sally, there was never a rule until recently that said "4-months fter he showed to you" Peg Just for clarification at the time he 4-month rule stated: A Handler cannot show under a judge for 4 months FTER he handles for that Judge ----Original Message----- rom: Sally Hayden <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx> o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:55 pm ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] handling for a judge Just for clarification at the time he 4-month rule stated: A Handler cannot show under a judge f or 4 months FTER he handles for that Judge ally www.embroiderybysally.org ===========================================================================OST is Copyrighted 2008. 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