[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars

  • From: caggra@xxxxxxx
  • To: nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx, cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:24:02 -0400

To All:



Nancy Harper writes:

"Linda is correrct, Jeff Pyle did not handle a dog? prior to judging.? He was 
"hired" prior to the judging as verified by the closing date of the TN 
Shows.? Talk with AKC they have ruled this constitues a "conflict of 
interest".?? Should AKC change their ruling, I am quite sure the PC Board 
would do the same."




I was not "hired".?? I was asked by Linda (not Joan) to show a few dogs at the 
East Tennesee specialty which was after Joan's Futurity.?? Linda asked me to 
show an Open dog for someone in Florida, which I was paid for.?? She also asked 
if I could help the struggling East Tennessee club by taking in a couple of 
extra dogs that weren't really competitive, but as we all know sometimes we 
fill up an entry to make majors for everyone.? I did not invoice any of the 
owners of the bitch which Joan's name was part of, nor ever was paid for 
showing that bitch or a couple of others owned by other people.?? Therefore, 
please tell me how that equate to a?BUSINESS relationship when no communication 
between me and Joan occured and no invoice/money was exchanged??? 



To clarify?a few key points?- 



I have never, not once?been booked to show a dog for?Joan Fox.? She has never 
called and booked me to show a dog.? Prior to this East Tennessee show in 
question I never showed a dog?owned, co-owned, or bred by Joan Fox.?? Since 
that show, I have never showed a dog owned, co-owned or bred by Joan?Fox.? ?She 
has never been a client of mine.? I have spoken with Joan on the phone 
approximately 5 times in my entire life - all 5 occuring AFTER this whole 
incident happened.? I have never been to Joan Fox's home and she has never been 
to mine.?? I have never shared a meal with Joan Fox - we have never grabbed 
lunch or dinner.?? 

All of the above are the normal activities that I believe occur when there is a 
business relationship between people.??



Lastly, when I contacted AKC I was told that they do not rule on Futurity 
incidents.? Their words - "We do not record wins for matches & futurities, so 
how can we possibly take away a win for something that is not recorded"??? I 
was further told that AKC would simply?stand by whatever decision the?parent 
club?determined, and if necessary, help the GSDCA enforce their (their meaning 
GSDCA) final ruling.?? I have the above statements from AKC in writing by email 
if anyone would like to see them.



Sincerely,

Jeff Pyle






-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Harper <nancy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx; cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, Sep 6, 2009 7:05 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars




Linda is correrct, Jeff Pyle did not handle a dog  prior to judging.  He was 
"hired" prior to the judging as verified by the closing date of the TN 
Shows.  Talk with AKC they have ruled this constitues a "conflict of 
interest".   Should AKC change their ruling, I am quite sure the PC Board 
would do the same.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:48 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Truth in real dollars


I am putting true money on the table. I will donate $10,000 (ten thousand 
dollars) to rescue if Carmen Battaglia or Nancy Harper can tell us one time 
Jeff Pyle EVER handled, watered, or fed, (covering all bases here lol) a dog 
for Joan Fox prior to her judging the SE Fut Mat in April of 2006. I am 
serious on the challenge and confident my bank account will not be depleted.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:56:56
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: handling for a judge


The 4-month rule may have only recently been added to the GSDCA judging 
guidlines, but as of 01/08/2004, this rule was in effect with the AKC.  The 
GSDCA Futurities/Maturities are AKC *sanctioned* matches.  Therefore, the 
judge of an AKC sanctioned match is required to follow *AKC* rules and 
guidlines in effect at the time the match took place.

Here's the AKC link where you will find the 4-month rule stated clearly and 
concisely:
http://www.akc.org/about/conflict/exhibitB.cfm

Look under section III. Ineligible Dogs and you will see the following:

"2.   If a judge uses an agent, the agent is not to exhibit dogs under the 
judge for at least four months after working for you. This policy applies 
for breed competition, but it is recommended to avoid at all levels 
(Policy - Guidelines)."


If my post is incorrect, please let met know.


Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
Qui Me Amat, Am
at et Canem Meam


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peg Kurz" <gatlinp@xxxxxxx>
To: <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:01 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: handling for a judge


Your right Sally, there was never a rule until recently that said "4-months 
after he showed to you"



Peg



Just for clarification at the time


the 4-month rule stated: A Handler cannot show under a judge for 4 months
AFTER he handles for that Judge




-----Original Message-----
From: Sally Hayden <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2009 1:55 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] handling for a judge



Just for clarification at the time


the 4-month rule stated: A Handler cannot show under a judge for 4 months
AFTER he handles for that Judge




Sally

www.embroiderybysally.org

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