This is excellent, Cathy. Thank you. And I have to ask if I may borrow the points for some of my responses to the media. Please. Thanks Stormy Oh.. and good for you to not make the broads slur word generalization about breeders :-) On May 2, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote: Of course the AKC mentions health testing and I don't need 1/2 hour to find it. Go to the puppy section, all sorts of info about parent clubs, links to parent clubs, links to breeder referral and every time you click, MORE info. Breeder profiles in the classified section have a section to check for health testing, specific listings contain health certifications when they have been done, then you click a link and it defines health testing, additional questions on the breeder profiles re contracts, bill of sale, willing to take a puppy back, MORE links to pc sites, MORE suggested screening questions to ask breeders, more on breed specific health testing....Someone puppy shopping has to be blind to miss all that and has to agree to terms and conditions before using the classified search feature, "AKC registration does not indicate the health, quality or value of a dog. AKC registration simply identifies the dog as offspring of a known registered sire and dam."....more PDF's on how to pick a puppy, MORE contact info for breed club reps.... You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Plenty of people out there that want cheap and some are just plain stupid. That's not the AKC's fault. Now, the truth of the matter is, folks who do health testing on their dogs rarely if ever have a litter of puppies that a family can just go sit and look at that aren't llllooooooongggg spoken for and that's what families have in mind when they think they will look for a puppy. Some people really DO ask about health testing and are willing to wait and willing to pay a fair price. What's left for those not willing to wait (or who have an absurd idea about what a puppy should cost) is an odd assortment of puppies that can be registered, just because mommy and daddy were, no health checks and God knows how they were raided/started. (I was careful not to say BYBs and PMers Stormy!!!) Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ Stormy V. Hope https://www.facebook.com/GSDCA.LegislationAwareness https://www.facebook.com/CaRPOC.CaliforniaResponsiblePetOwnersCoalition ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================