I think you are. Two different issues; one the dog as a watch dog, and there a dog should bite if "pushed" by a perceived threat. That said, I expect our dogs to be intelligent enough that hey are able to discriminate between a judge at a dog show and a perceived threat. Dog shows are fun outings; at least they are for my dogs. The GSD was originally a working farm and herding dog. There was NO ROOM for aggression between dogs. I don't think we should excuse it t-day either. I don't. I have 5 males in the house. All but the 2 youngest have been used for breeding. If I see on ounce of dog aggression, believe me, they will be in for some very "special handling". In fact, one can breed a bitch, the bitch leaves, the dog who bred the bitch re-joins his housemates and they all snooze in front of the fire. No dog aggression allowed or excused here. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 2/10/2010 4:13:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: After reading Dave's interview...I have a question. In it, he mentioned that Rollins would only bite if he was pushed and that he prefered a tougher dog. Assuming I am interpeting this correctly....I have to admit that I've always prefered a tougher GSD and have never really bought into the new and improved temperaments of wagging tails and kisses for the judge. I also recall some incidents at shows where male dogs particuarly, would show aggressive tendancies outside the ring that would send witnesses into a tizzy....and I'm thinking...okay these are Shepherd "people"? I've always equated a stud dog with a breeding sstallion that requires special handling and respect. Am I missing something here? Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================