Bill, I am inclined to agree with you, and just with what happened to us at a restaurant i chalked it up to an argument. never in my wildest dreams did I think that the other person would pull rank as a "judge' and file a complaint.I consider such actions as spineless, like tattling to the teacher. However, the AKC seems to be clamping down on this sort of thing, especially if witness testimony verifies the incident. Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Basu To: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 6/11/2007 1:44:44 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The Good,Bad and Ugly from So Cal. As with all things in life, actions have consequences. I chose not to file a Complaint, not as a conscious decision, i just didn't think of it and it does not work for my personal belief system with how i deal with issues like this. I am not looking for retribution or people to do anything on my behalf, i am just making sure the truth is known so my "sterling" reputation (ahem!!!) is not tarnished with falsehoods. If an AKC complaint is filed, i am a big boy, i will tell the truth and the consequences will be the consequences. I am old fashioned and still do believe in the saying "The truth shall set you free". Bill ----- Original Message ---- From: hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Bill Basu <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:27:30 AM Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The Good,Bad and Ugly from So Cal. Problem is Bill that is doesn't necessarily have to be YOU that files the charges. Anyone who knows about it saw it, whatever can do so. If someone does file charges and it is found that the club didn't act as they should, then the club could be fined, again much like what happened at the national. I can't stress enough that based on our own personal incident, that even though the show was over, the hotel grounds is still considered the show site. Even at a restaurant after show hours the AKC says, still a show event.Peter Gaeta cited several incidents including one that happened at a banquet, a dog fight at a hotel, a dog bite incident that wasn't reported, and a few others. so based on what he stated and what I know personally happened to us I know I am speaking factually.. Do I agree with the AKC long arm of the law? no not really, because I believe that you should be able to have a heated exchange with someone without fear of AKC intervention, BUT, they do make the rules. The fact that Evan eluded to the event is a moot point. It doesn't make it any more or less significant. Christine > > After winning the Maturity, I was standing in the middle of the grassy area talking on the cell phone sharing my excitement of handling the Maturity Winning bitch with a friend. I had my head down with the cell phone to my ear. Suddenly out of nowhere I looked up and see this rather large GSD judge in a very agitated state two inches from my face screaming at me F**K You!!! then he continued past me. Needless to say I was shocked, stunned, and pissed that someone would verbally assault me this way, with NO prior interaction the whole day!!! I repeat, we had No Interaction the whole day!!!!So in reaction I responded in kind!!! I then put the cell phone back to my ear and continued the conversation about the Maturity and turned my back to this fellow. Next thing I know, from behind I feel someone bump me!! I again drop my cell phone turn around and here's this judge again, berating me, at this point I told him to not put his hands on me again or this would have to go > further. He left and I continued my phone conversation. The person who was on the other end of the phone, and heard all of this going on, is a GSD judge and was stunned. She asked me what was going on, and I told her but frankly we went back to me bragging about my Maturity win as this was clearly much more my agenda. I'm sure other's saw it, but frankly I didn't pursue it, I was too happy about winning the Maturity. > > Many of you will find this incredulous, perhaps you will even find my continuing my cell phone incredulous, in light of the events, but that's what happened, nothing more, nothing less. > > Why did I not call the Bench Committee? Maybe I should have, I just didn't think of it at the time, I was reveling in our Maturity Win and this "top" judges (and board member) actions would not deter me from my fun and enjoyment with my friends and clients at the show. Truth be told, until Evan's post fanned the flames, i was willing to let bygones be bygones. > > I only choose to share this with you, so you know the TRUTH and so my name is not raked in the mud for something I did not willingly participate in. > I want to make sure you are all clear, I did not look for trouble, i was minding my own business, trouble found me!!!! > > > Bill Basu > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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