Just something to think about: When a person chooses not to report an incident that is unacceptable, mean spirited and unsportsman like then this person becomes part of the "problem" the problem is that our breed is suffering, and our sport is suffering. For many reasons, cost, time and the inevitable negative events like this don't make newbies smile and want to become one of us. Any event that is negative and has to do with a dog show can be reported so we can continue to have dog shows!!!!!!!!!!!! I let folks know that I will report to both the GSDCA and the AKC if there are any issues! I tell all of the parks, hotels and city staff I deal with, let me know who if any is inappropriate. There will be consequences. And there needs to be. Our sport isn't on firm grounds people. Why do we let this type of behavior go on? At any dog event????????? This is a big deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beth Colorado Like i said before, I am not spewing this info, for the sake of an AKC complaint or action. I am on public record that i will not pursue that path as it does not jibe with my personal belief system on how to handle this. However,if there is an issue with the AKC or the GSDCA,all i can do is to tell the truth and provide the evidence and deal with the consequences. No Problem. My honor and integrity will be kept intact in either case. If the club is hurt, i'll feel sad, but i don't feel responsibility as i did nothing wrong in my mind and my intent was certainly not to hurt the club. Bill ----- Original Message ---- From: Kathaleen Strong <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:35:29 PM Subject: RE: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Good,Bad and Ugly from So Cal. Despite the poor judgment on the other party -- unfortunately Bill, you also admitted to poor judgment and therefore an infraction based upon the rules. I can't say faced with the same type of thing I wouldn't be equally unable to keep my mouth shut and not mouth off in the same way -- but as it has now made it to the GSD electronic tabloid -- well it is what it is. Remember what happened to the folks in the National incident -- one was the provoker and one was the provokee and both got nailed by the AKC... and because the GSDCA didn't act accordingly the GSDCA got a pretty hefty fine -- somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,500.00 if I remember correctly. The issue I really think is at this point is this show a GSDCA show being hosted by the regional club therefore should the GSDCA doing something or is it just the regional club's bailiwick? In any event -- anytime there's something like this that happens at a show, it's a sad day for the whole of the sport. Regards, Kathaleen ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================