Very well said Pat and Pauline.  I think it clearly shows that the BOG is not enough of a tool of communication to the membership. And when members contact Board Members, it is always the same very few Board Members that bother to respond.  With all the networking sites and immediate disbursement of information, it is high time that the Board find a way to communicate with its membership. There are issues that could at least be presented before a fall out such as this happens. I am not talking about regular club business, I'm talking about major issues that effect the membership, Regional Clubs etc.  I truly feel that some things were pushed thru in a manner that  raises concern. Not all board members were present for some of what was done either.  With all this said, if it is true that it is indeed too late to back out of this, the least the membership can ask for is a truthful breakdown what to expect over the next 2 years from a financial standpoint, as well as a clearcut commitment on who is going to be supplying the manpower to run this trial. I hope the Board will find a way to communicate that to the membership, rather sooner than later.  Chris Chris S. (Jolley)  Kimerer www.tanbarkgsd.com  Ch. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E Ch. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA      From: "ropajagsd@xxxxxxx" <ropajagsd@xxxxxxx> >To: BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx; israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:13 PM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [gsdshowlist] The Emperors Clothes > >I agree...CLEAR communication between the Board and the general membership >does seem to be in need of repair....and it is especially difficult if one >party believes they have communicated clearly and the other party does not >think so...however if no one asks for clarification directly to the individual >(s) concerned...then only the person who doesn't understand thinks there is a >problem....grin!.... Pauline > > >-----Original Message----- >From: BAERENTATZE312 <BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx> >To: israelfriedberg <israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; RopajaGSD ><RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx> >Cc: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2011 3:22 pm >Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [gsdshowlist] The Emperors Clothes > > > >In a message dated 8/3/11 1:02:36 PM, israelfriedberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > >Not sure that I agree. You never want to spend good money to chase bad >money. I donâ??t care if we take a loss now if the loss will be a lot less >than the loss would be later. The question is how much are we obligated to >pay that we canâ??t get out of and how are things shaping up with likelihood >of this making a profit or what will the loss be based upon what we know >today. Then we can make a new decision based upon what we know today. > >Sam > >Not sure that I agree. You never want to spend good money to chase bad >money. I donâ??t care if we take a loss now if the loss will be a lot less >than the loss would be later. The question is how much are we obligated to >pay that we canâ??t get out of and how are things shaping up with likelihood >of this making a profit or what will the loss be based upon what we know >today. Then we can make a new decision based upon what we know today. > >Sam > > >I agree with you Sam, it's like throwing good money after bad as they say. I >think the biggest issue our club has is communication. No one is an island >to himself or herself, and no one is more important than anyone else in this >club, regardless of Board position. That said, do we have a plan in place >with all the t's crossed and the i's dotted for 2013? The first thing that >comes to my mind is where are we going to get the commitment for the huge >number of volunteers that would be needed to help host this thing? How many >left coasters are going to be able to get there and support this let alone >people from the rest of the country. How much money are we really spending to >impress the GSD world. With the way our national economy is going who knows >what financial shape most of us will be in two years from now? Check out gas >and food folks. And one of the biggest issues is how this club's officers in >the last meeting dis the local clubs by snatching the Purina funds from > them for their futurities to apply to the National fund. Is that to make >the books look better? From what I hear, when voting on this issue, our >parliamentarian did not abide by the rules she is bound to enforce. Just >remember without the local clubs and membership the GSDCA is nothing. >Regards, >Pat > > > >===========================================================================>POST > is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original >author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind >are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the >Showgsd-l Management. 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