At the last Sieger show we attended, a gun test was held for every class. At that time it seemed that ;any dog that showed any concern was heavily penalized. We believe they were allmostly well trained, very sound or deaf! Dick Whalen Senior Temperament Test Evaluator. Hi Dick: Thank you for your clarification of the Gun Test as it stands in the Temperament Certification test. While I realize that this test will be something that dogs will be conditioned for; those animals who are now secretly sound sensitive will be ferreted out. At least one can hope that if the breeders who continue to say that they care about this breed; that they will realize the link between sound sensitivity and other nervous traits. Regards, Kathaleen ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kathaleen Strong - Inflight Kennels Reg'd ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================