In a message dated 7/13/2006 3:49:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, LauraEG writes: Perhaps if more clubs held temperament tests, the Specials could have their test prior to the nationals? Make it a requirement to enter the class Hello Laura Thank you for your response. Sure do appreciate it!! Personally speaking I would like to see the TC done the week of the National, and be a requirement every year for every entrant. That way we are evaluating the dog currently , and not relying on a test that may have been done......? We want to raise the bar for the National Specials, keeping everything pertinent to that class, that timeframe. Many will already have one from years ago...this will not be for a certification, but a re-check as it were. Also in the case of WD , WB, they too must pass the test to be given, after winners. They could opt not to do so, but that means they will not have a ticket into Specials. I agree with the gunshot, which is another reason maybe a different area other than the main ring. Also don't want to tie up the ring , we are still trying to shorten the National. Keep the ideas coming! Kathy Tank ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================