I agree with Syd, it is just bad sportsmanship. We live in rural western Colorado. In a 350 mile circle around us there are only two shows that make majors consistently every year. Expand that to 400 miles and we have four. It is so much time, effort, and money just to get single points out here that I cannot imagine taking someone else's chance away by continuing on in the small shows. If your dog is ready to be a champion you need to prove it at a major. Not on the off chance of a Group 1 win. And I think the "fun of it" is half the point, Sportsmanship and good fellowship are the other half all blended with a love of being around German Shepherds. Oak Oak Ridge German Shepherds Dedicated to the German Shepherd Dog > > > > > Hi, Most of us show for the fun of it, there certainly is no other > motivation for the majority. I know folks who have been showing in the > breed for 30 > years, and do not have a champion...they are still having fun! It is > immaterial > if they have a good dog or not. They love the dogs and the sport. When > someone comes along and wins that lousy little point THAT DOES NOT NEED > THE POINT, > that will not propel them toward their championship, that is bad > sportsmanship in my opinion. I have seen dogs from the classes win a major > from the > group, (it has happened to me twice), but in every case I have seen, > including > mine, the dogs needed that major and WERE NOT MINORED OUT Some dogs have > both > majors, and cannot easily get that last lousy point or two. They show in > major > classes, and that is kosher, because the win will further their needs... > I > have seen "minored out" dogs steadily compete for a point or two, never > get > BOB, but manage to take the point from a dog who needs minor points. > Where is > the joy in accumulating 28 minor points? There are exceptions. If the > judge > has given you a nice win previously, and the group judge has been known to > like > your dog, then I feel it is a chance you can take..In that case, it is not > a > blind gamble, but still not entirely kosher. None of this is illegal, > immoral or fattening, just stupidly optimistic. Generally it means nothing > if a dog > has minor points, and can't win a major in a major show. That is to say, > that dog may not be a worthy dog. Most dogs can get minored out in a 6 dog > show. > Nothing to brag about. Syd > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================