Evan, I would not count that as the typical readily identifiable situation of someone fraudulently presenting with a dog as service dog. In the affluent, bustling urban area where I live, 9 times out of 10 that I see a dog in a restricted access place, it is not a genuine service dog. And 99% of the time, I can tell. So would a professional trainer/handler or someone with a well trained service dog or someone in the industry. Most of the people bringing these dogs places do not know that a zillion things the dog or they do give them away. And most seem very surprised by challenges that their dogs end up facing the dogs fail at. Probably most commonly, for us, we encounter little dogs that go absolutely ape & freak out upon seeing/smelling/hearing the mere presence of my large service dog entering the establishment. Many people who have pets who serve as therapy dogs (or trained to) or otherwise well behaved dogs in MOST normal pet contexts seem also to be genuinely surprised when their dogs also do not do well in service dog contexts. Most people -- and, Evan, that means most people not married to an attorney or in the industry -- also do not know the proper lingo or laws involved if they were to be questioned properly by the business. Businesses would do well to question them, properly, and to learn to more readily spot questionable cases. My point is, the VAST majority of the time, reflecting much of what the public is realistically upset about, these situations need not be occurring and being permitted by the businesses. I have worked with many businesses to reduce the problems they encounter. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: > When a friend of ours was out visiting, she uses a Service Dog, but did not > bring her dog with her. > > She asked to be able to take Kirk into the restaurant with her after > training class with the crowd, since he looks like the picture on her > Service > Dog card. Tedi said it was fine with her, (I would not have agreed). > > She took in Kirk, he walked next to her, she sat down, he immediately lay > at her feet and never moved until we left. > > That was a first for both myself and Kirk. > > Evan L. Ginsburg > gsyrfund.com > Asgard German Shepherds > _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) > Where Type Movement and Temperament come together > > In a message dated 11/21/13 1:04:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > sophoclesajax@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > it is easy to recognize dogs > that are presented as service dogs that are not service dogs, if you know > what to look for. > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS > of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author > AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group > and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions > expressed in any post. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: > http://showgsd.org/mail.html > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================