[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ]/testicles
- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- To: rautt75@xxxxxxxxx, myjoygs@xxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:31:27 -0400 (EDT)
In the breed ring? It's an AKC thing. I included the text below. And
yes, if a judge DQ'd a 6-9 month old puppy in the breed ring w/ a missing
testicle, the judge was correct.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
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In a message dated 10/17/2013 3:04:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rautt75@xxxxxxxxx writes:
i've seen judges dismiss pups 6-9 mos. for one testicle. So is it a
judge thing or is it a dq?
Anne,GA
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> On Oct 17, 2013, at 1:06 PM, "myjoygs@xxxxxxx" <myjoygs@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Okay correct me if I am wrong isn't conformation judged according to the
GSD Standard and I believe it says the dog has to have both testicles. So
how can it be a DQ in the ring and not in the standard? I am confused.
>
> If below is the case this is messed up.
>
>
> MYJOY SHEPHERDS
> Joyce Willis
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> From: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
> To: barbara17236 <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>; Showgsd-l
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> Sent: Thu, Oct 17, 2013 9:15 am
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ]/testicles
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> It's not a DQ according to the GSD standard, it is a DQ for showing in
the
> breed ring. A lot of folks confuse the two, so I guess it would be a
good
> idea, like Lori suggested to further define.
>
> Just as a refresher, here are the current DQs for our standard:
>
>
> Cropped or hanging ears
> Dogs with noses not predominantly black.
> Undershot jaw.
> Docked tail.
> White dogs.
> Any dog that attempts to bite the judge
>
> The DQs for the breed ring are listed in Chaper 11 section 8 of the AKC
> book, it is a PDF, not sure this will come through the list but if it
doesn't,
> page 45:
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>
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> SECTION 8.
> A dog which is blind, deaf, castrated,
> spayed, or which has been changed in appearance by
> artificial means except as specified in the standard for
> its breed, or a male which does not have two normal
> testicles normally located in the scrotum, may not
> compete at any show and will be disqualified except
> that a castrated male may be entered as Stud Dog in
> the Stud Dog Class and a spayed bitch may be entered
> as Brood Bitch in the Brood Bitch Class. A dog will
> not be considered to have been changed by artificial
> means because of removal of dewclaws or docking of
> tail if it is of a breed in which such removal or docking
> is a regularly approved practice which is not contrary
> to the standard. Neutered dogs and spayed bitches
> would be allowed to compete in Veterans Classes only
> at independent specialties and/or those all-breed shows
> which do not offer any competitive classes beyond Best
> of Breed.
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> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
>
> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
>
>
> In a message dated 10/17/2013 8:51:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> barbara17236@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> Yes, Kathy they can BUT I wonder just how many MALES were neutered
because
> they only had 1 testicle descend normally? That is clearly a DQ,
which is
> no longer a DQ, after neutering.
>
>
>
>
> Barb Hively - PA
> DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
> To: ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 17, 2013 6:54 am
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ]
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>
> You are getting your AKC breed ring DQs mixed up with GSD standard DQs.
> BTW a veteran past a certain age can be spayed/neutered and still go in
> the
> breed ring.
>
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
>
>
> In a message dated 10/16/2013 8:11:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> _ELG440@aol.com_ (mailto:ELG440@xxxxxxx) writes:
>
> I thought you could not show a surgically altered dog in
conformation.
> How could a spayed or neutered German shepherd qualify?
>
> I am serious, maybe I am missing something.
>
> Evan L. Ginsburg
> gsyrfund.com
> Asgard German Shepherds
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> In a message dated 10/16/13 10:14:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> _judsohngsd@cox.net_ (mailto:judsohngsd@xxxxxxx) writes:
>
> this dog may be spayed or neutered, but must meet the GSD standard for
> Conformation dogs"
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