[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ]/testicles
- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- To: myjoygs@xxxxxxx, barbara17236@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:46:25 -0400 (EDT)
It is not a DQ in our standard. It IS a DQ for the AKC breed ring. I
have included the DQs for both the standard and the AKC breed ring from the
rule book below.
So...obviously you would not show a dog with a missing testicle in the
breed ring, but I suppose you could in the performance ring and still be
eligible for PC awards...who knows? More importantly, who cares?
Logically I would think if someone kept a male with one testicle to do
performance with, by the time it reached the higher levels, for health reasons
it would have been neutered.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
In a message dated 10/17/2013 1:06:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
myjoygs@xxxxxxx writes:
Okay correct me if I am wrong isn't conformation judged according to the
GSD Standard and I believe it says the dog has to have both testicles. So
how can it be a DQ in the ring and not in the standard? I am confused.
If below is the case this is messed up.
MYJOY SHEPHERDS
Joyce Willis
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From: Pinehillgsds <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: barbara17236 <barbara17236@xxxxxxx>; Showgsd-l
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Sent: Thu, Oct 17, 2013 9:15 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ]/testicles
It's not a DQ according to the GSD standard, it is a DQ for showing in the
breed ring. A lot of folks confuse the two, so I guess it would be a good
idea, like Lori suggested to further define.
Just as a refresher, here are the current DQs for our standard:
Cropped or hanging ears
Dogs with noses not predominantly black.
Undershot jaw.
Docked tail.
White dogs.
Any dog that attempts to bite the judge
The DQs for the breed ring are listed in Chaper 11 section 8 of the AKC
book, it is a PDF, not sure this will come through the list but if it
doesn't,
page 45:
SECTION 8.
A dog which is blind, deaf, castrated,
spayed, or which has been changed in appearance by
artificial means except as specified in the standard for
its breed, or a male which does not have two normal
testicles normally located in the scrotum, may not
compete at any show and will be disqualified except
that a castrated male may be entered as Stud Dog in
the Stud Dog Class and a spayed bitch may be entered
as Brood Bitch in the Brood Bitch Class. A dog will
not be considered to have been changed by artificial
means because of removal of dewclaws or docking of
tail if it is of a breed in which such removal or docking
is a regularly approved practice which is not contrary
to the standard. Neutered dogs and spayed bitches
would be allowed to compete in Veterans Classes only
at independent specialties and/or those all-breed shows
which do not offer any competitive classes beyond Best
of Breed.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
In a message dated 10/17/2013 8:51:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_barbara17236@aol.com_ (mailto:barbara17236@xxxxxxx) writes:
Yes, Kathy they can BUT I wonder just how many MALES were neutered
because
they only had 1 testicle descend normally? That is clearly a DQ, which
is
no longer a DQ, after neutering.
Barb Hively - PA
DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd
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You are getting your AKC breed ring DQs mixed up with GSD standard DQs.
BTW a veteran past a certain age can be spayed/neutered and still go in
the
breed ring.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
In a message dated 10/16/2013 8:11:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_ELG440@aol.com_ (_mailto:ELG440@aol.com_ (mailto:ELG440@xxxxxxx?) )
writes:
I thought you could not show a surgically altered dog in conformation.
How could a spayed or neutered German shepherd qualify?
I am serious, maybe I am missing something.
Evan L. Ginsburg
gsyrfund.com
Asgard German Shepherds
_http://_www.asgardgsd.com__ (http://www.asgardgsd.com_/)
(http://www.asgardgsd.com/)
Where Type Movement and Temperament come together
In a message dated 10/16/13 10:14:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
_judsohngsd@cox.net_ (_mailto:judsohngsd@cox.net_
(mailto:judsohngsd@xxxxxxx?) ) writes:
this dog may be spayed or neutered, but must meet the GSD standard for
Conformation dogs"
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