1- Best Puppy (non regular class). - If a pup goes winners or reserve, it has defeated the other pup of the same sex, and only 3 pups will compete for BP. If a pup goes BOW or BOB it automatically becomes BP. 2- Veteran Classes (non regular class) - We are still out on that one 3- WD and WB. Do they automatically go Select just as a "tradition"? Answer to this is an overwhelming no, everyone agrees, so far, judge the dogs on that day. 4- In the Stewards Club I belonged to there are specific instructions from the judges before judging begins. Are they going to allow late entries, are they going to allow handlers changes, what to do when there are too many animals. Do they stay in catalog order, male first or vice versa. All the little things that make it all run smoother. Can we create something like that?, something standard that every judge can work with and eliminate the confusion that's bound to happen in a ring that busy and with classes that big. Many liked this idea, or something along these lines, to improve the handling of the ring.....WITHOUT interfering with the judge's job or AKC rules. 5-Are these issues in the P&P, and if not, can they be incorporated? Can we add these answers to possible issues to the judges contracts? About this: Judges cant be contracted to do anything other than what AKC licensed them to do. This is very tricky. 6- More importantly, when any of these questions arise, who has the final word and do all the stewards and the judges know who that person is? According to all answers, the judge and the Chief Steward are supposed to be aware of the rules. The show committee needs to also be aware of the regulations. These are the only people supposed to provide an answer, in absence of an AKC rep. When in doubt, it is recommended to stop and get the right answer rather than mark the books incorrectly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Don't know about the rest of you, but I've learned quite a bit. Ileana ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIG ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================