In a message dated 10/29/2006 4:37:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: WD and WB. Do they automatically go Select just as a "tradition"? Paul adds... Many times they have but I doubt that it was just a "tradition"...may be in some instances...but more often than not...they are exceptional animals...This year in Canada the WB went Select, I believe the WD did not and at our National...neither did. I remember in 82, my bitch went winner's bitch. I took her back in myself for the Best of Breed competition since she was only 14 months old, and I wanted the experience of showing her. Tedi told me not to do it, but our handler was committed to another bitch. So, I went in and we ran for four hours, from the end of the line, to second Select. Then the judge said I had to come back in for Best of Winners. I was exhausted, sick from trying to breath in tanbark and sawdust. I suggested they give it to the dog, since he had not gone Select, but the judge said no. So, I made another couple of passes. Winner's Dog or Winner's Bitch does not go Select unless the judge thinks they deserve it. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================