When these discussions about wolves being the ancestors of our dogs or German
Shepherd Dogs it seems most are considering the wolves associated with our own
Western Frontier of North America......??
Remember....the German Shepherd Dog did not originate in this Country from our
North American wolf, or Timberwolves that are what we are familiar with as a
part of our History in the West. Our GSD Breed originated in Germany....and
therefore may have come down from the Eurasian wolf.....which is not described
the same as our North American wolves nor exactly the same as the Bavarian
wolf......? Part of these descriptions in the sites posted use these
descriptions to claim the dog does not come from the wolf....or DOES come from
the wolf. <G>
I always wonder about the paintings and drawings of dogs that resemble the
Saluki ( supposedly the absolute oldest pure breed of dogs in the world
).....that we see in EARLY Egyptian paintings...? They are already
GENERATIONS away from being wolf-like. What about the Wild Dogs of
Africa....or the Australian Dingo....or the Jackals. Are we really so sure
which one was the "original" of all canines......?
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kate Syssoloff
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 9:34 PM To: d fritsche Cc:
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our dogs are wolves?
When I took the course, 'Dogs, a Hobby or a Profession' at Cap College [umpteen
years ago], the beginning of our companionship with dogs began they
speculated/taught, that wolves followed man at a distance as they knew there
would be a kill with bones and left over scraps being thrown into the bushes,
where they lay in wait to be fed. And, so it went until the day came when
there was a trust between them.
You are so close Dave in mentioning 'cleaning up the garbage'...
Kate Syssoloff
Rockannand
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From: "David Fritsche" <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, 21 December, 2015 9:32:13 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Our dogs are wolves?
OH PIFFLE!
Dog food fights are fun, but most start with a presumption of the dog, hundreds
or thousands of years ago as the wolf, coyote, hyena, or other canine, fending
for itself, killing rabbits, mice, chickens, etc. for their daily food.
How about examining that presumptions a bit. Since anthropologists have found
the bones of dog with the bones of people thousands of years ago, is it at all
possible that dogs started out as companions to man, living with or in close
proximity to and cleaning up our garbage as a source of food and as a function
of the social context??????
But how should I know. I am old, but I did not get to observe Adam, Noah, or
the Neanderthals contrary to the opinion of some.
Dave
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