The AKC frowns upon judges simply clapping for other dogs. I can't imagine the AKC would think that promoting dogs on a public list, that they neither own or co-own would be appropriate.If a judge wants to discuss who he likes, what he doesn't like about a dog amongst peers, no problem, but being a promoter in a public forum is a bit different. On another thread I addressed how many think the rules are only for others and not for them. Here is another we can add to the list. One other I forgot to mention was judges who train and condition dogs they don't own or co-own and then blatantly double them. the owners in turn brag on the list about how wonderfully the judge trained, groomed and conditioned their dog! doesn't matter if the judge is the breeder of the dog, if they don't own it, then it is my understanding that this is a no-no. I suppose people have gotten by with doing as they wish for so long in the breed, that they brazenly think nothing of putting what they are doing wrong in print! When enough people finally get sick and tired of the crap, they will start taking the appropriate actions to see that it stops.If that means forwarding public e-mails to the AKC to let them decide if the judge is acting prejudicial to the sport, then so be it. Until then, we will continue to lose more exhibitors in the sport. Christine hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> > To: <helen@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 6/10/2007 2:20:56 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Our Breed > > > > > > In a message dated 6/10/2007 12:50:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > helen@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: > some people dislike what I think or say, but don't ever doubt by devotion > and adoration of our breed and total commitment to it. When I see something > going in the right direction, I will shout it from the highest roof top, or > visa versa. > Helen Franklin > > > > I have no particular dislike of this judge, or any opinion about the dogs > she touts or promotes. I do have an issue with judges that are currently > judging coming on and doing this. Have your likes, discuss them with friends if > you will but do not do this public type of promotion. I don't see any other > judges on this list doing this....perhaps promoting their own stuff, no issue > with that. > But, how do people feel to show to a judge that does this with the possibly > these dogs show up? Doesn't it just make you want to stay home? > And I say again, this is not personal, this is just an ethical thing with me. > Have a great day. > Molly > > Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 > Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC > "Life without dogs would be to have no life at all" > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================