VetGen has the tests that are available, unfortunately the ones you list aren't and the DM tests that they do list...well, there is some debate that it is accurate for GSDs. Ginny addressed this a while ago, much better than I ever could, so I won't even try.... Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 9/1/2010 8:09:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, myjoygs@xxxxxxx writes: Does anyone know if there is a list somewhere of genetic available DNA tests , for example for bloat, toxic gut, mega etc. -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne <tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 4:56 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Opinion on the Lowering of the Requirements for OFA CHIC Well, I have to agree with you here. The database, which actually meant omething, has now opened up from the fifty or so dogs who'se owners cared nough to do the testing to HUNDREDS. Not knocking all of you who actually do ip and elbows and the temperament test but the CHIC was SUPPOSED to be a reeder's referral database. Although I would have preferred to see the DM ests and other true genetic tests that do not change over time. I really xpected more from the PC................<sigh> uzanne ww.tsalishepherds.com ome of BIS/MBISS Ch Yancy HT PT RE CD TC CGC BH, UCICB CAC Int Ch Helios IPO3 D HIC CGC CHIC, BIS Gilli RN CHIC [13 pts/3 mjrs and AllBreed Best In Show from he classes!!], Ch Mojito CHIC, Kane [8pts/1 mjr], Ch Flair CHIC, AKC/Int Ch ezzy CHIC, Anna TC, Nikki, and the Wreckin' Crew!! ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Paula M. Cooke" <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> o: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:14:44 PM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Opinion on the Lowering of the Requirements for OFA CHIC I was so very sorry to get the e-mail from Tish regarding the downgrading of the FA CHIC, done at the request of the GSDCA. I do not understand this at all. Shouldn't we be demanding the support of advanced health testing in our reeding stock? Shouldn't we be rewarding breeders who help to establish these igh standards? IMHO, there should be more requirements, as science develops ore tests, markers, etc., not less. Never less. I found it odd that the GSDCA AOE award never demanded more in the way of health esting, and now, I find it odd that the OFA has lowered the requirements of the HIC to the GSDCA AOE level. Is that what influenced Carmen to advocate, and ecommend to the Board of the GSDCA, the downgrading of the OFA CHIC equirements? 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