Well, I have to agree with you here. The database, which actually meant something, has now opened up from the fifty or so dogs who'se owners cared enough to do the testing to HUNDREDS. Not knocking all of you who actually do hip and elbows and the temperament test but the CHIC was SUPPOSED to be a breeder's referral database. Although I would have preferred to see the DM tests and other true genetic tests that do not change over time. I really expected more from the PC................<sigh> Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of BIS/MBISS Ch Yancy HT PT RE CD TC CGC BH, UCICB CAC Int Ch Helios IPO3 AD HIC CGC CHIC, BIS Gilli RN CHIC [13 pts/3 mjrs and AllBreed Best In Show from the classes!!], Ch Mojito CHIC, Kane [8pts/1 mjr], Ch Flair CHIC, AKC/Int Ch Jezzy CHIC, Anna TC, Nikki, and the Wreckin' Crew!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula M. Cooke" <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:14:44 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Opinion on the Lowering of the Requirements for OFA CHIC I was so very sorry to get the e-mail from Tish regarding the downgrading of the OFA CHIC, done at the request of the GSDCA.  I do not understand this at all.  Shouldn't we be demanding the support of advanced health testing in our breeding stock?  Shouldn't we be rewarding breeders who help to establish these high standards?  IMHO, there should be more requirements, as science develops more tests, markers, etc., not less.  Never less.  I found it odd that the GSDCA AOE award never demanded more in the way of health testing, and now, I find it odd that the OFA has lowered the requirements of the CHIC to the GSDCA AOE level.  Is that what influenced Carmen to advocate, and recommend to the Board of the GSDCA, the downgrading of the OFA CHIC requirements? You breeders of the GSD have done such a fantastic job in lowering the incidence of hip dysplasia, as well as improving temperament, over the past 30 years.  Why step backwards now; why stop improving now?  There are many health issues we NEED to overcome, not just hip, elbows, heart, thyroid......the list should be growing as we find new, more accurate ways to test our breeding stock.  Breeding programs should NEVER step backwards.  JMHO Paula, ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================