[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OVC vs OFA

  • From: Barbara Hahn <bhahn0616@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT)

This is the portion that I clearly do NOT understand. I am under the impression 
that FCP, OCD, and UAP are serious abnormalities that cause very noticeable 
limping and it would be readily apparent that there was something very wrong.
How can so many of these DJD I dogs live entire lives running, jumping, living 
what appears to be a comfortable life if they have a serious elbow abnormality?
I am confused.
Barb
Liz <RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It is also important to understand that DJD is a finding which aids in the 
diagnosis of elbow dysplasia, but the DJD itself is the secondary result of 
one or more of three distinct etiologies that make up the generalized 
description of elbow dysplasia. These are united anconeal process (UAP), 
fragmented coronoid process (FCP), and osteochondrosis (OCD) which may 
appear singularly or in combination."



Just FYI...

Liz in Utah

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From: "Royal T Shepherds" 
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Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OVC vs OFA


>I couldn't agree more...  I've even taken a dog to a vet who used to sit on 
>the vet panel for OFA.  He said the elbows were fine and we resent to no 
>avail...  I personally think there should be a rating system for elbows 
>like hips.  This pass/fail system is such a pain.
>
> Gina
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx" 
> To: RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:00:57 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OVC vs OFA
>
>
> In a message dated 5/25/2008 9:50:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> I  personally trust OFA more than OVC because
> of my experience with Ivan, and  one radiologist vs a consensus of 3
> radiologists...well, 6 eyes are better  than 2, no?
>
>
>
> I would agree to a point.  My only concern is, for instance  hips.  My
> understanding is 3 review. The lowest grading is the one you get.  So if 
> you get 1
> excellent, 1 good and one fair then you have a fair rating.
>
> Not sure if they do that on Elbows either but I have seen dogs come back
> with DJD that neither local well experience Vets nor Radialogist agreed 
> with but
> OFA does not care. Like wise I have seen dogs pass OFA which the
> exceptionally  experienced be thought would not....  Just food for thought
>
> Deb
>
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