[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OVC vs OFA
- From: "Liz" <RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:32:44 -0600
OFA actually addresses the "normal range" question for elbows on their
website, as a Q&A about elbows. Here's what they say:
"Q. Some breeders believe that Grade I elbows are within the "normal" range,
much like Fair hips are considered to be within the normal range. What is
the OFA's position on this?
A. The OFA's distinction between normal and abnormal elbows is actually more
clearly defined than are the differences between fair and borderline hips.
Elbows are diagnosed as dysplastic when evidence of Degenerative Joint
Disease (DJD) is present as evidenced by osteophytes or sclerosis. It is not
a gradual continuum from normal to abnormal, in which minor differences
might be interpreted as normal by one reader and abnormal by another. The
degree of DJD present is the determining factor in the grade of dysplasia.
The term "degenerative joint disease" is often misunderstood and
misinterpreted. "Degenerative" is defined as some distinct change from a
normal state to a diseased state. It does not imply a continuing process in
which the disease will progress and worsen continuously over time, and it is
incorrect to assume that a dog with Grade I ED will eventually develop Grade
II or III ED.
It is also important to understand that DJD is a finding which aids in the
diagnosis of elbow dysplasia, but the DJD itself is the secondary result of
one or more of three distinct etiologies that make up the generalized
description of elbow dysplasia. These are united anconeal process (UAP),
fragmented coronoid process (FCP), and osteochondrosis (OCD) which may
appear singularly or in combination."
Just FYI...
Liz in Utah
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From: "Royal T Shepherds" <gina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx>; <RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OVC vs OFA
>I couldn't agree more... I've even taken a dog to a vet who used to sit on
>the vet panel for OFA. He said the elbows were fine and we resent to no
>avail... I personally think there should be a rating system for elbows
>like hips. This pass/fail system is such a pain.
>
> Gina
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx" <DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx>
> To: RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 4:00:57 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OVC vs OFA
>
>
> In a message dated 5/25/2008 9:50:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> RockyLizard@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> I personally trust OFA more than OVC because
> of my experience with Ivan, and one radiologist vs a consensus of 3
> radiologists...well, 6 eyes are better than 2, no?
>
>
>
> I would agree to a point. My only concern is, for instance hips. My
> understanding is 3 review. The lowest grading is the one you get. So if
> you get 1
> excellent, 1 good and one fair then you have a fair rating.
>
> Not sure if they do that on Elbows either but I have seen dogs come back
> with DJD that neither local well experience Vets nor Radialogist agreed
> with but
> OFA does not care. Like wise I have seen dogs pass OFA which the
> exceptionally experienced be thought would not.... Just food for thought
>
> Deb
>
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