[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OFA and Pancreatic testing
- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
- To: jackkilgour@xxxxxxx, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:32:15 -0400 (EDT)
Jack, I am going to thank you for Kathy and I, as we have taken this
journey together trying to shed light into what appears to be a big problem for
our breed, one that has affected us closely, and one no one is talking about
openly. We are praying not only for honesty, but for openness.
I hope Kathy and I can come up with a game plan, and in the process,
perhaps, help establish a data base, thus making this information available
for
all breeders. Just facts.
I guess since my commentaries aren't eliciting a negative response, you
didn't quote me this time. <G>
Enjoy the National!
* Ileana *
Love me, love my dogs.
In a message dated 10/9/2012 12:58:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jackkilgour@xxxxxxx writes:
Kathy,
You have written such intelligent, thoughtful emails and they emote your
concerns, frustrations and hopes for the future. YES, YES, YES... when a
dog dies - my God, especially if it dies young (3 - 9 years of age) and
it's
been used a couple of times and more importantly a couple of hundred times
-
do the necropsy - PLEASE...and share the information. We are all in this
together and we can make choices when their more informed ones.
Personally, I thought I had the scoop on a lot of issues - the litter of 5
with G.V. in there - yikes... how do we, as breeders know what to do?
Well,
it's our responsibility to ask about health issues - any known that are
cropping up out of the stud dog in waiting...and of course your example is
quite simply a great reminder to ask about the health of the litter he
came
from. PRAY for honesty in ourselves and in others. It's for our breed.
jack
-----Original Message-----
From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 9:44 AM
To: inquestgsd@xxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OFA and Pancreatic testing
I know...so what do we do? A data base???? And we have to look linear.
True story...GV, litter of 5. 2 w/ UAP, 2 w/ mega and then the GV. How
many people who bred to the GV didn't know????? (long dead).
And another thing I am finding....dead dogs, no necropsies. Lots and lots
of dead dogs. So, even if the breeder is being honest, they really don't
know why a particular dog (dogs) died. I am actually floored....
Can I make a suggestion to everyone???? If a dog dies and you don't know
why, especially if it is a very young dog or a dog who has been used at
stud
or a bitch that has been bred ....necropsy. No, I'm not talking about the
12 year old w/ the enlarged spleen and the vet suspects cancer...but I AM
talking about a very young dog, a popular stud dog or a middle aged bitch
who has had litters that suddenly dies.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 10/9/2012 12:13:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
inquestgsd@xxxxxxx writes:
Well , all the private conversations aren't saving any dogs, and never
have. What's the point of talking if not sharing, openly?
I want to deal with facts, not opinions, not finger pointing, gossiping
and rumors.
You know I am broken hearted over the puppy's passing. We can turn this
into a solution seeking situation, or let it become a witch hunt, as these
things normally tend to go, unfortunately.
I have spent the good part of the last 2 weeks talking to vets, seeking
educated, professional opinions. I am forwarding Kay's vet info to these
vets. Maybe she knows something we don't
I know you have spent the same time doing pedigrees research and talking
to breeders and other people in the breed. There has to be an answer. Even
if we don't like it.
As my hubby always says, doing the right thing isn't always easy, but its
still the right thing to do.
No one should have to lose a dog over health issues, due to lack of
information.
Hugs!
Ileana
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