[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: OFA and Pancreatic testing
- From: Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx>
- To: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 12:13:23 -0400
Well , all the private conversations aren't saving any dogs, and never have.
What's the point of talking if not sharing, openly?
I want to deal with facts, not opinions, not finger pointing, gossiping and
rumors.
You know I am broken hearted over the puppy's passing. We can turn this into a
solution seeking situation, or let it become a witch hunt, as these things
normally tend to go, unfortunately.
I have spent the good part of the last 2 weeks talking to vets, seeking
educated, professional opinions. I am forwarding Kay's vet info to these vets.
Maybe she knows something we don't
I know you have spent the same time doing pedigrees research and talking to
breeders and other people in the breed. There has to be an answer. Even if we
don't like it.
As my hubby always says, doing the right thing isn't always easy, but its still
the right thing to do.
No one should have to lose a dog over health issues, due to lack of information.
Hugs!
Ileana
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Well I guess you would reach out to Barb Williams.
>
> Kay's vet certainly provided good information.
>
> If we are to believe like Barb W. opined to the list that all gastro problems
> (bloat/GDV, mesenteric torsion, toxic gut, EPI) are related, then, judging by
> the sheer volume of dogs affected by all of these issues combined we have one
> HECK of a huge problem.
>
> I realize not everyone thinks all of these things are related. Some may not
> even think any of these conditions are genetic (I strongly disagree and the
> more I look at certain families and receive/read private e-mails the more I
> am convinced there is a genetic component...but WHAT IS IT???? ..certain
> families?????? <sure seems plausible> weakened immune system????? <very
> possible>).
>
> If we are to believe that these things flow from a weakened immune system,
> possibly caused by all of the same dogs back-massed (not sure that's the
> correct phrasing) in today's pedigrees, (like Liz opined) then we STILL have
> a heck of a problem because when I take today's pedigrees back more than 4
> generations, with very few exceptions, I might as well marry my brother.
>
> Weakened immune systems are a HUGE issue in the breed, skin and coat, thyroid
> issues, bitches that don't have normal seasons/can't conceive/carry a litter
> to term, etc. etc. etc.
>
> And a particular dog might be fine but his sister might be a mess...or a
> bitch fine but her brother dead early...so then what??? And how on earth do
> you do THAT kind of research???
>
> So, does the weakened immune system affect pancreatic function? <possible>
> And if so, how do we even begin to determine a level for normal? How often
> to test? Kay's vet, remember, treats anything under 5.
>
> I have more questions than answers.
>
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
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