We should start a data base. And your point on necrosis is exactly right. One of the many vets I have talked to stressed the point of how many dogs are being bred at such early ages, when in fact , many of the serious health problems, normally, don't even manifest until about 3 years of age. I thought that was an interesting point. Ileana Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote: > I know...so what do we do? A data base???? And we have to look linear. > True story...GV, litter of 5. 2 w/ UAP, 2 w/ mega and then the GV. How many > people who bred to the GV didn't know????? (long dead). > > And another thing I am finding....dead dogs, no necropsies. Lots and lots of > dead dogs. So, even if the breeder is being honest, they really don't know > why a particular dog (dogs) died. I am actually floored.... > > Can I make a suggestion to everyone???? If a dog dies and you don't know why, > especially if it is a very young dog or a dog who has been used at stud or a > bitch that has been bred ....necropsy. No, I'm not talking about the 12 year > old w/ the enlarged spleen and the vet suspects cancer...but I AM talking > about a very young dog, a popular stud dog or a middle aged bitch who has had > litters that suddenly dies > > Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================