In a message dated 11/15/2006 12:55:43 PM Central Standard Time, jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Perhaps "floating" is not a good term ------------------------------------------ "Floating" is not suspension. In fact, I would say that floating describes an upward drive more than it does a forward drive. There is nothing efficient about a dog's drive if it is pushing him upward. The natural slight lift that carries the forequarter comes from a powerful, forward pushing rear drive. The dog's structure, if it is correct, is all that is needed to create that reaction. GSDs have a high wither for that reason. Think about this ... A dog will move at a slow speed when walking (no suspension yet). If you increase speed, the steps naturally extend. (Still no need for suspension.) At some point, when reach is at its maximum physical limit, suspension is required for the dog to cover more ground with each step, thereby increasing speed without the need to waste energy and move the limbs even faster. I know this is sounding technical, but bear with me. If a dog appears to suspend at a very slow speed, something is not right. His structure cannot be correct because his motion is driving him upward instead of forward. It is easy to be fooled. I will not name names, but I once knew a dog that really appeared to float. Some people were absolutely in awe of his suspension. When the other dogs were still at a walk, this dog was floating. He had a steep croup, completely locked hocks, and a short upper arm. All of this, combined with his small size, created upward drive both from his rear and his front. I have always been one of the most adamant about judging dogs on a loose lead. For the most part, judges believe they have taken that important directive on. However, too many judges demand "slow," and are satisfied with the lead flopping once in the middle of the pass. Some judges even appear to mistake slow for a loose lead, when in fact the dog is dragging the handler like a sled. This breed needs to be viewed at three speeds .... Slow, medium and fast ... always on a loose lead. While it may be true that exaggerated speeds are not necessary in herding, we aren't judging herding in the conformation ring. We are judging structure. A correctly structured dog can move slow, medium, and fast, and do so without expending unnecessary energy in the process. We call those dogs "great movers." Tom Langlitz ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================