Lee - I've found that not restraining those difficult dogs works best for me. You might start by playing and picking up his feet alot when he is relaxed or playing.....putting your fingers between his toes, even pulling on his nails....but never making a big deal out of it, and never turning it into an episode....it's just something you casually do during the day. When he is comfortable with you touching his feet, then you just spring the clipper on him one day...not when he's on the grooming table and not with anyone holding him....just walk up pick up a foot and clip one or two nails and walk away. Within a few days you can usually get all of his nails clipped. Eventually they will tolerate having their nails clipped in a more formal setting and sometimes are the easiest dogs to do. This doesn't work with grinders...too noisy and it takes too long. Cindy Liane Fossland <lfossland@xxxxxxx> wrote: Here's a good one for you: I have an 11 months old male (my breeding) who absolutely does not let me cut his nails. He weighs 80 lbs. which can easily support his determination not to let this happen. I had a neighbor who knows my boy and was asked to hold him for me. Won't work. I had him at the vet's. With 3 people trying to do it, they gave up and the vet determined at that point not to try it again for their sake. He suggested that he be put under anesthesia while he cut his nails. That's $80.-, and I know that's cheap. But what about the future? Would I have to put him to sleep each time he needs to have his nails trimmed? I have been in dogs for a long time. There NEVER has been, up to this date, any dog who I could not trim nails on. I am hoping that perhaps one of you can figure out what I need to do in order to get the job done. Any suggestions? A frustrated Lee F. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================