In a message dated 11/25/2006 11:48:11 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, DestinoGS1@xxxxxxx writes: The breed is not cookie cutter in Germany. They do look different from one another, just like my German Imports do not look alike. What they all seem to have in common is good feet, bone, substance, endurance, strong backs( not roached), Proper body proporations, heads that fit their sex, clean coming and going, strong ears, full mouths, good pigment, good strong character, gun sure, they are not nervous and jumping about in the ring, and the will to keep performing for hours What they lack is front reach and proper croups I agree..with the addendum that they could use longer neck, also. Generally, though, I consider them beautiful. Also, in the 2005 Urma book, I saw a lot of gaiting photos. They exhibited the same reach, front and back. The main difference I have personally seen, is lack of suspension..but..they can move, and many have tons of angulation. syd SYD MAILBERG 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================