Where do those sad dogs come from? We know that a very small percentage are purebreds. We know that many are unadoptable or sick. We know also that some are owner surrenders due to moving, new baby, whatever. We also know that many of these dogs in shelters are due to humans that don't care about their animals. They don't train them, let them run loose, don't S/N them and are sometimes criminals themselves. If you think the shelters are bad, try being on patrol in South Central L.A. I can't tell you how many pups/dogs we have taken off the streets and into our homes. As to the supply/demand issue. If there were no more AKC purebred dogs available, people will get their pets from where they can find them. The criminals will make this a business, just as drugs and prostitution are a business. Buying a dog will go underground and the only pets available will be from puppy millers, pet stores, volume breeders and gangsters. Quality, health and temperament will no longer exist. You will get an "As Is" pup. If there is a shelter problem now, just think of the poor "As Is" dogs/cats that will be turned in. Are we as breeders responsible for shelter animals? Yes, some are. They are the volume breeders. I found a Lab breeder in Riverside who had 7 litters of pups available for Christmas deliveries last year. I found them because one of my co-workers bought a pup from them. These folks do NO show/performance/working things with their dogs. They are just breeders. They are legal in all respects of current laws. So, I guess that is where we will get our future dogs.  Laura Thomas P.S. This pup is already having hip problems. I told them to get him x-rayed but haven't heard back yet. Talk about steps backward.   -----Original Message----- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx To: jkerner@xxxxxxxxx; dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 9:35 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Look at it from another angle. n a message dated 6/17/07 9:29:14 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kerner@xxxxxxxxx writes: s dog breeders and exhibitors in the Sport of Pure Bred Dogs we are, as ost of us have already noticed, under severe and constant attack by others who would deprive us of the freedom to pursue our interest by passing still more aws which certainly seek to prohibit and penalize us. For some reason, this morning I was thinking, (shut up Paul) of a weird hought. I recognize the problem of all those poor animals in shelters needing rescue. If you have ever gone to a dog shelter, it will tear out your heart to ee those poor animals, cowering in fear, or just waiting to be killed, and ut to rest. The pain they must suffer, and the fear they go through is so nfair to them, it is we who have caused it. Maybe not you and me, but ertainly people who either cannot or will not care for them. ere is the thought, and it is a terrible idea. hat if the AKC were to shut down, (as some want) and dog breeding as a port were wiped off the earth? eople would still want pets. Dogs and cats would still be enjoyed by the illions of compassionate humans who understand the touch and heart of an nimal in their lives. All of them would come from those who now end up in the helters, and the great loss of pure bred dogs would be filled by the lost and bandoned animals that everyone seems to think is such a problem. have often suggested that people rescue a German shepherd from the helter, rather than buy a puppy for $800.00. I know many who love their ousehold nimal, without reservation or papers. Is this a solution? ust a question. 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