[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long Coat Class @ The National

  • From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
  • To: helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx, sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:40:55 -0400 (EDT)

Helen, you are so right.  But how is a new class going to improve bad  
judging?  Is not the dogs that are at fault.  I keep reading about  judges 
putting up dogs with major faults.  I think THATS where the problem  is, not in 
the dogs hair.  
 
* Ileana  *
Love me, love my dogs.  
 
In a message dated 6/19/2012 7:46:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx writes:

Sorry  Sally, what I was trying to point out was that coats are not shown 
or  they
are faulted when shown due to the length of their "hair," and here we  are 
awarding dogs points on a regular basis with very serious  faults.  I see 
dogs
awarded WD that are dirty going away all the  time....dogs bad coming or 
going is
a very serious fault.  Yet we  fault a long coat and don't show them.  A 
long coat
should defeat a  dog that is bad going away every day of the week if we are 
just
comparing  the two faults only. 
I don't care about the Germans at all...not two  twits.  But just maybe 
they have
learned something...who  knows?
Helen Franklin


-----Original Message-----
From: Sally  <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Helen Franklin  <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 4:30  pm
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long Coat Class @ The  National



I never said it was a serious fault in fact in my  first post i said a 
minor fault in fact at the large Minneapolis last spring i  gave  a lovely 
coated puppy her class  but i do not believe they  should be singled out and 
given a special class

Sent from my  iPhone

On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Helen Franklin  <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx> 
wrote:




The standard does  not change....
A long coat is a FAULT
Oh but I so don't want to get  started.....................
A VERY SERIOUS FAULT IS.....a fault of gait  MEANING...DOGS BAD GOING AND 
COMING ARE......
VERY SERIOUS FAULTS.....how  many dogs do you know that are dirty going 
away....A VERY SERIOUS
FAULT  !!!!!!!!!
Helen Franklin............


-----Original  Message-----
From: Sally <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Helen  Franklin <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx>
Cc: SHOWGSD-L  <SHOWGSD-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 4:01 pm
Subject:  Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long Coat Class @ The National



Really  just because there is a class the standard changes hmmmm

Sent from my  iPhone

On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Helen Franklin  <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx> 
wrote:




They can be shown  now as you say, but they start off in a regular class
WITH A FAULT.   Shown in a long coat class, they do NOT start off with
a fault, they start  off on a level playing field with other dogs of similar
type and can  therefor be judged on just their conformation  ONLY.




-----Original Message-----
From: Sally  <sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: helenfranklin520  <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx>
Cc: showgsd-l  <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 3:55 pm
Subject:  Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Long Coat Class @ The National


They can be  shown now so why a special class. I  see it as  an attempt to 
make  
ore money by making a class for a dog with a minor fault. Rather  
embarrassing 
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:41 PM, Helen  Franklin <helenfranklin520@xxxxxxx> 
wrote:
> Long Coat  Class:  An idea whose time has come!  Some of the
most  magnificent animals Iâ??ve seen were long coats.  Kudoâ??s
to those who  are considering adding them to our Nationals.
Without long coats in our  breeding programs, we would not
have the beautiful plush coats that we have  today, but instead
we would have all tight coated dogs.  We NEED long  coats 
to correct lines lacking coat, but few realize this fact.  Look  at
the Edan bitch, dam of 11 ROM progenyâ?¦need I say more.
I would give a  BOB to a coat the quality of that bitch without
thinking twiceâ?¦we need to  see more of them.
Helen Franklin   




=========================================================================== 
 POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the  
original 
uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS  of any 
kind 
re permitted without prior permission of the original author  AND of the 
howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 

Each Author  is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group 
and 
ts  administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions 
expressed in  
ny post.

ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING,  REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY 
ANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON  SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS 
PERMISSION 
F ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE  LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, 
AND 
S A VIOLATION OF LAW.  VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. 

For assistance,  please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx

VISIT OUR  WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org   
SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html
NATIONAL BLOG -  http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
===========================================================================





===========================================================================POST 
 is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the 
original  author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of 
any kind  are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of 
the  Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 

Each Author is responsible  for the content of his/her post.  This group 
and its administrators are  not responsible for the comments or opinions 
expressed in any post.

ALL  PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY 
MANNER  OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS 
PERMISSION OF  ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY 
FORBIDDEN, AND IS  A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE 
PROSECUTED.  

For assistance, please contact the List Management at  admin@xxxxxxxxxxx

VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org   
SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html
NATIONAL BLOG -  http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
===========================================================================

============================================================================
POST is Copyrighted 2011.  All material remains the property of the original 
author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind 
are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the 
Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 

Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its 
administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in 
any post.

ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY 
MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS 
PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY 
FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE 
PROSECUTED. 

For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx

VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  
SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html
NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/
============================================================================

Other related posts: